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Re: no whois info ?
From: Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine <brunner () nic-naa net>
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 11:24:48 +0000
In an earlier episode I pointed out to the list-resident VGRS person that the dynamic properties introduced for one marketing purpose would have a consequence in another problem domain, but no point revisiting that issue. abuse () cabal org uk (Peter Corlett) wrote:
There's some awful tinpot domain registrars out there where you have to wonder if their whois server is on the end of a dialup link, but fortunately I'm not attempting to access those.
The ICANN Registrar agreement has no transactional temporal property for :43 queries. In fact, quite a few registrars associated with one of several outsource business models, e.g., the Tucows HRS customers (complete), the Pool thead customers (partial addr allocation), etc., use common :43 servers. I've tried to work this problem, but it appears to require cooperation between isps and registrars, and that's just not happening, and agreement that persistent (hours or longer) name-to-address associations factor into the prevelant economic spam business models, and that's just not happening either as spam-presentation (to the user or the interposing device) is the problem of choice. Schemes to exhaust the dotted quad space, or exhaust the dotted string space (*lists generally) just don't help identify one asset economic spam schemes appear to require to extract value from the spam-presentation instances -- a return path that works. So, call the small registrars names as long as you want, and as long as you don't want to pay for a service, and spend your money elsewhere on something that works better, for some value of better. Cheers, Eric <{registry,registrar,isp}_hat = "off">
Current thread:
- Re: no whois info ?, (continued)
- Re: no whois info ? Alex Bligh (Dec 12)
- Re: no whois info ? Peter John Hill (Dec 09)
- Re: no whois info ? Raymond Dijkxhoorn (Dec 09)
- Re: no whois info ? Mike Tancsa (Dec 09)
- Re: no whois info ? Peter John Hill (Dec 09)
- Re: no whois info ? Peter Corlett (Dec 10)
- Re: no whois info ? Elmar K. Bins (Dec 10)
- Re: no whois info ? william(at)elan.net (Dec 10)
- Re: no whois info ? Peter Corlett (Dec 10)
- Re: no whois info ? Suresh Ramasubramanian (Dec 10)
- Re: no whois info ? Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine (Dec 10)
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- RE: no whois info ? Mike Tancsa (Dec 09)