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Re: Microsoft XP SP2 (was Re: Lazy network operators - NOT)


From: Dan Hollis <goemon () anime net>
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 12:03:32 -0700 (PDT)


On Mon, 19 Apr 2004, Jeff Shultz, WIllamette Valley Internet wrote:
** Reply to message from Drew Weaver <drew.weaver () thenap com> on Mon,
19 Apr 2004 13:42:53 -0400
    However, awhile ago we tried an idea of sending out E-Mail alerts to
our customers whenever a critical update of "Remote execution" or worse was
released. We found that most of our users were annoyed by this, a different
time we used a network sniffing tool to find a few dozen handfuls of your
average home Dial-Up users who were infected with various malicious agents
(I.e. Nimda, et cetera) and we actually contacted those users, to let them
know and again we were met with more hostility. 
You definitely don't have our customers then.  Our usually appreciate
being told that their systems are screwed up. 

He's right.

Most customers get defensive/hostile when you tell them there's something 
wrong with their system.

However I've encountered the same attitude with many NOCs when informing 
them they have open relays / smurf amps / owned servers. First they deny 
it - "you must be mistaken", then get defensive "what business is it of 
yours anyway?" or hostile "you can't possibly know that without having 
broken into our network, I'm calling the police" (yeah right, I need to 
break into your network in order to be smurfed by your broken routers.)

So this isnt unique to end users. It seems most people would rather 
discover problems themselves, and go into a sort of panic mode when 
informed by a third party. Many (including NOCs) aren't emotionally 
prepared to handle anything beyond "hit ctrl-alt-del".

I'm still looking for a good way to gently inform end users/nocs of 
problems without having them fly off the handle.

-Dan


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