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Re: What do you want your ISP to block today?
From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2003 12:57:05 -0700
--On Wednesday, September 3, 2003 3:11 PM -0400 Johannes Ullrich <jullrich () euclidian com> wrote:
Some businesses have create an entire industry of outsourcing Exchange service which need all their customers to be able to use those ports.So should everyone else be required to keep their doors open so they can offer the service? Who is wrong/right? Millions of vulnerable users that need some basic protection now, or a few businesses?
Sorry... "Millions of vulnerable users" are only vulnerable because those users chose to run vulnerable systems. They have the responsibility to do what is necessary to correct the vulnerabilities in the systems they chose to run. I am really tired of the attitude that the rest of the world should bear the consequences of Micr0$0ft's incompetence/arrogance. The people who are Micr0$0ft customers should have responsibility to resolve these issues with Micr0$0ft. It is nice of ISPs to help when they do. This is akin to driving a pinto, knowing that it's a bomb, and expecting your local DOT to build explosion-proof freeways. Owen
-- -------------------------------------------------------------- Johannes Ullrich jullrich () euclidian com pgp key: http://johannes.homepc.org/PGPKEYS -------------------------------------------------------------- "We regret to inform you that we do not enable any of the security functions within the routers that we install." support () covad net --------------------------------------------------------------
Current thread:
- Re: What do you want your ISP to block today?, (continued)
- Re: What do you want your ISP to block today? Petri Helenius (Sep 03)
- Re: What do you want your ISP to block today? Johannes Ullrich (Sep 03)
- Re: What do you want your ISP to block today? Christopher L. Morrow (Sep 03)
- Re: What do you want your ISP to block today? Johannes Ullrich (Sep 03)
- Re: What do you want your ISP to block today? Rob Thomas (Sep 03)
- Re: What do you want your ISP to block today? Petr Swedock (Sep 03)
- Re: What do you want your ISP to block today? Johannes Ullrich (Sep 03)
- Real network failure causes Was: What do you want your ISP to block today? Ian Mason (Sep 04)
- Re: Real network failure causes Was: What do you want your ISP to block today? Joe Abley (Sep 04)
- RE: What do you want your ISP to block today? David Schwartz (Sep 03)
- Re: What do you want your ISP to block today? Owen DeLong (Sep 03)
- Re: What do you want your ISP to block today? [OT] Gabriel (Sep 03)
- Re: What do you want your ISP to block today? Randy Bush (Sep 03)
- Re: What do you want your ISP to block today? alex (Sep 03)
- Re: What do you want your ISP to block today? William Devine, II (Sep 03)
- RE: What do you want your ISP to block today? Matthew Kaufman (Sep 03)
- RE: What do you want your ISP to block today? Johannes Ullrich (Sep 03)
- Re: What do you want your ISP to block today? Jack Bates (Sep 04)