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Re: Block all servers?


From: Stefan Mink <mink () schlund net>
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:21:49 +0200

On Tue, Oct 14, 2003 at 10:07:45AM -0700, Crist Clark wrote:
Yes, it does work, on a small scale.  However what if your neighbor
wants to IPSEC to the same place (say you work at the same place).
If both of you are NAT'd from the same IP address trying to IPSEC
to the same IP address?  I don't believe things will work in this
instance.

why not? We use it here, works fine (with certificates for auth).

OK, let's do this one more time. Many-to-one NAT of a many-to-one ESP VPN
does not work. (Period)

I'm doing a shortcut here: I didn't want to say I'm using "pure standard
IPsec" (2401/2409) here. For me extensions like NAT-T or DPD are part
of IPsec too although they are still in the draft state. They just
make IPsec more usable as in this case here...

I know the additional encapsulation isn't a nice thing with NAT-T
but at least it works :] (don't look at L2TP via IPsec if you
don't like additional encapsulations - nevertheless it seems to
be the future of Windows-VPNs :( ).

   tschuess
             Stefan
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