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RE: Block all servers?
From: "Christopher Bird" <seabird () msn com>
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 20:20:36 -0500
I know they CAN, but the issue is do they have the mechanisms and operational capabilities of actually doing so? I would like to see my cable provider making it hard to do some of the things I do. Not because I should not be doing them, but those same holes that I exploit (hopefully in a benign fashion) can be used with malicious intent. By saying, "If you want to use our service then you must deply this kind of modem/router" at least makes their insistence explicit. Currently there is more arm waving than actual adherence to security policy. Thus we have many poorly configured Windows boxes accessing the internet (and the WWW) in manners which are to the detriment of everyone else.
-----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog () merit edu [mailto:owner-nanog () merit edu] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 7:06 PM To: nanog () merit edu Subject: RE: Block all servers? The TOS/AUP for most residential broadband connections already allows the ISP to shut off service or do anything they want to the customer without prior notice. It has been this way for at least 3 or 4 years, since the advent of @Home. Take a look at the TOS/AUP for Comcast, Shaw Cable, MSN DSL or similar...Second, in the acceptable use policy for high speed connections, require a "licence" of some kind. We have licenses/permits for our cars, our dogs, our burglar alarms, for going fishing,.....Why not forbroadband. Actually I can see many reasons both to do it andnot to doit, so this is clearly an area where debate is reasonable.
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- Block all servers? Michael . Dillon (Oct 10)
- RE: Block all servers? Christopher Bird (Oct 10)
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- RE: Block all servers? Eric Kuhnke (Oct 10)
- RE: Block all servers? Christopher Bird (Oct 10)
- Re: Block all servers? Adam Selene (Oct 10)
- Re: Block all servers? ken emery (Oct 10)
- Re: Block all servers? Adam Selene (Oct 11)
- Re: Block all servers? ken emery (Oct 11)
- Re: Block all servers? Stefan Mink (Oct 14)
- Re: Block all servers? Crist Clark (Oct 14)
- Re: Block all servers? Stefan Mink (Oct 14)
- Re: Block all servers? Kee Hinckley (Oct 14)
- Re: Block all servers? Crist Clark (Oct 14)
- Re: Block all servers? Steven M. Bellovin (Oct 14)
- RE: Block all servers? Eric Kuhnke (Oct 10)