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RE: Block all servers?


From: "Christopher Bird" <seabird () msn com>
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 20:20:36 -0500


I know they CAN, but the issue is do they have the mechanisms and
operational capabilities of actually doing so? I would like to see my
cable provider making it hard to do some of the things I do. Not because
I should not be doing them, but those same holes that I exploit
(hopefully in a benign fashion) can be used with malicious intent.

By saying, "If you want to use our service then you must deply this kind
of modem/router" at least makes their insistence explicit. Currently
there is more arm waving than actual adherence to security policy. Thus
we have many poorly configured Windows boxes accessing the internet (and
the WWW) in manners which are to the detriment of everyone else.

 




-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nanog () merit edu [mailto:owner-nanog () merit edu] On 
Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 7:06 PM
To: nanog () merit edu
Subject: RE: Block all servers?



The TOS/AUP for most residential broadband connections 
already allows the ISP to shut off service or do anything 
they want to the customer without prior notice.  It has been 
this way for at least 3 or 4 years, since the advent of 
@Home.  Take a look at the TOS/AUP for Comcast, Shaw Cable, 
MSN DSL or similar...

Second, in the acceptable use policy for high speed connections, 
require a "licence" of some kind. We have licenses/permits for our 
cars, our dogs, our burglar alarms, for going fishing,..... 
Why not for 
broadband. Actually I can see many reasons both to do it and 
not to do 
it, so this is clearly an area where debate is reasonable.






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