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Re: Worm Bandwidth [was Re: Santa Fe city government computers knocked out by worm]
From: Sean Donelan <sean () donelan com>
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 09:20:56 -0500 (EST)
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003, Rob Thomas wrote:
Our choke points were always our peering or transit links. This was the case for our (large) enterprise customers as well.
Some people refer to it as the hourglass effect, but it has more than one bump. Generally only the smallest bottleneck controls the congestion. But worms and DDOS (but not DOS) violate some of the assumptions. lower bandwidth<---->higher bandwidth Local Area Network (LAN) Campus Area Network Customer to ISP uplink ISP POP to Backbone ISP Intra-Backbone ISP to ISP transit/peer (same continent) Intercontinental circuits Of course, there are some exceptions like a customer with an OC192 uplink or an ISP running a web hosting center on a ISDN link.
Current thread:
- Re: Santa Fe city government computers knocked out by worm, (continued)
- Re: Santa Fe city government computers knocked out by worm Scott Francis (Nov 17)
- Re: Santa Fe city government computers knocked out by worm kenw (Nov 17)
- Re: Santa Fe city government computers knocked out by worm Sean Donelan (Nov 16)
- Worm Bandwidth [was Re: Santa Fe city government computers knocked out by worm] Stuart Staniford (Nov 24)
- Worm Bandwidth [was Re: Santa Fe city government computers knocked out by worm] jmalcolm (Nov 24)
- Re: Worm Bandwidth [was Re: Santa Fe city government computers knocked out by worm] Stuart Staniford (Nov 24)
- Re: Worm Bandwidth [was Re: Santa Fe city government computers knocked out by worm] jmalcolm (Nov 24)
- Re: Worm Bandwidth [was Re: Santa Fe city government computers knocked out by worm] Sean Donelan (Nov 24)
- Re: Worm Bandwidth [was Re: Santa Fe city government computers knocked out by worm] Stuart Staniford (Nov 24)
- Re: Worm Bandwidth [was Re: Santa Fe city government computers knocked out by worm] Rob Thomas (Nov 24)
- Re: Worm Bandwidth [was Re: Santa Fe city government computers knocked out by worm] Sean Donelan (Nov 25)
- Re: Worm Bandwidth [was Re: Santa Fe city government computers knocked out by worm] Rob Thomas (Nov 25)
- Worm Bandwidth [was Re: Santa Fe city government computers knocked out by worm] Stuart Staniford (Nov 24)
- Re: Worm Bandwidth [was Re: Santa Fe city government computers knocked out by worm] Petri Helenius (Nov 28)
- Re: Worm Bandwidth [was Re: Santa Fe city government computers knocked out by worm] Sean Donelan (Nov 28)
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- Re: Worm Bandwidth [was Re: Santa Fe city government computers knocked out by worm] Daniel Senie (Nov 28)
- Re: Worm Bandwidth [was Re: Santa Fe city government computers knocked out by worm] Stephen J. Wilcox (Nov 28)
- Re: Worm Bandwidth [was Re: Santa Fe city government computers knocked out by worm] Petri Helenius (Nov 29)
- Re: Santa Fe city government computers knocked out by worm Valdis . Kletnieks (Nov 17)
- Re: Santa Fe city government computers knocked out by worm todd glassey (Nov 17)
- Re: Santa Fe city government computers knocked out by worm Joe Abley (Nov 17)