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Re: spamcop.net?


From: chuck goolsbee <chucklist () forest net>
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 11:53:39 -0800


Thus spake "Martin Hannigan" <hannigan () fugawi net>
 Not for nothing, but there's so much time wasted with all these
 diversified spam systems.

Many of these systems have been shown to falsely flag non-spamming sites,
and the more reliable ones unfortunately don't catch a majority of spammers.

So true. We have a colo client who is a domain name registrar that (curiously) "parks" expired domains on their servers here... basically saying "this domain available" (with something of a "whowas" database showing the last domain holder.) Last I checked over 500,000 expired domains are parked there.

Anyway, if I had a buck for every time some spammer used one of these expired domains for a bogus "unsubscribe URL" or "From:" address I would be able to retire by now. Quite comfortably.

I have thousands of auto-generated complaints from Spamcop, pointing to these domains as being "spamvertised"... and a /25 seemingly forever blacklisted by spews due to this 'false flag' situation. Yes, I have plead my case on news.admin.net-abuse.email ... but as we all know due process is not involved when on trial by spews.

I have a semi-auto reply now to explain the situation to Spamcop subscribers, but I doubt any of them read it, and I know no attempt is made to verify or prevent this event from repeating ad infinitum.

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Chuck Goolsbee                          V.P. Technical Operations
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