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Re: WANTED: ISPs with DDoS defense solutions
From: variable () ednet co uk
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 23:15:37 +0100 (BST)
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003, Mike Tancsa wrote:
I recall one of our users was involved in a DoS once a few years back when the "giant pings" could crash MS boxes. The fact that his perceived anonymity was removed was enough to keep him from repeating his attacks....
That's the heart of the problem. Anyone who's owned enough boxes can sit there happily running a DDoS anonymously against a target because: 1) The OS/software/default settings for a lot of internet connected machines are weak, making it easy to attack from multiple locations. 2) A lot of networks have no customer or egress filtering and make it a lot more difficult to trace DDoS traffic because it generally uses faked source addresses. If these issues are addressed then it becomes a lot harder to remain anonymous and starting DDoS attacks against targets that can trace you becomes a lot less attractive. Cheers, Rich
Current thread:
- WANTED: ISPs with DDoS defense solutions Lane Patterson (Jul 29)
- Re: WANTED: ISPs with DDoS defense solutions Jared Mauch (Jul 30)
- Re: WANTED: ISPs with DDoS defense solutions Mike Tancsa (Jul 30)
- Re: WANTED: ISPs with DDoS defense solutions Jared Mauch (Jul 30)
- Re: WANTED: ISPs with DDoS defense solutions Mike Tancsa (Jul 30)
- Re: WANTED: ISPs with DDoS defense solutions variable (Jul 30)
- Re: WANTED: ISPs with DDoS defense solutions Christopher L. Morrow (Jul 30)
- Re: WANTED: ISPs with DDoS defense solutions Mike Tancsa (Jul 30)
- Re: WANTED: ISPs with DDoS defense solutions Rob Thomas (Jul 30)
- Re: WANTED: ISPs with DDoS defense solutions Christopher L. Morrow (Jul 30)
- Re: WANTED: ISPs with DDoS defense solutions variable () ednet co uk (Jul 31)
- Re: WANTED: ISPs with DDoS defense solutions Mike Tancsa (Jul 30)
- Re: WANTED: ISPs with DDoS defense solutions Rob Thomas (Jul 30)
- Re: WANTED: ISPs with DDoS defense solutions Paul Vixie (Jul 30)
- Re: WANTED: ISPs with DDoS defense solutions Henry Linneweh (Jul 30)
- Re: WANTED: ISPs with DDoS defense solutions Randy Bush (Jul 30)
- Re: WANTED: ISPs with DDoS defense solutions Jared Mauch (Jul 30)
- Re: WANTED: ISPs with DDoS defense solutions variable (Jul 31)