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Re: US-Asia Peering
From: "William B. Norton" <wbn () equinix com>
Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 20:37:56 -0800
At 08:14 PM 1/9/2003 -0800, Randy Bush wrote:
> Well, first I think we need to agree that there are two different cases here:> 1) interconnecting IXes operated by the same party, vs. > 2) interconnecting IXes operated by different parties. > > In the first case an IX operator can shoot himself in the foot, but there > is only one gun and one person, so you can easily figure out why the foot > hurts. well, now we know you have ever had to debug a large L2 disaster
Randy - You snipped out what I said out of context. Below is the complete paragraph (and admittedly I should have said "relatively easily" rather than "easily".) The point is that I don't think we are talking about interconnecting switches operated by different parties, and I think you would agree that if it is difficult diagnosing problems with a single large scale l2 fabric, it is even more difficult with multiple administrative domains. That was the point.
Original Paragraph:>In the first case an IX operator can shoot himself in the foot, but there is only >one gun and one person, so you can easily figure out why the foot hurts. >In the latter case, there are more people with more guns. Without perfect >information distributed among the operators, this is clearly a more dangerous >situation and diagnosing/repairing is more difficult and time intensive. I believe >we are really talking about the first case.
Woody - I'd still like to hear about the failures "in every prior instance". >> clearly, interconnecting their exchange points to create a richly- >> connected Internet 'core' is a natural progression if their >> customers don't complain too loudly. >> not that it's a bad long-term plan... >Actually, it is. It's failed in every prior instance.
Thanks.
Current thread:
- Re: US-Asia Peering, (continued)
- Re: US-Asia Peering Jared Mauch (Jan 03)
- Re: US-Asia Peering Bill Woodcock (Jan 03)
- Re: US-Asia Peering Joe Provo (Jan 03)
- Re: US-Asia Peering Stephen Stuart (Jan 03)
- Re: US-Asia Peering William B. Norton (Jan 09)
- Re: US-Asia Peering Bill Woodcock (Jan 09)
- Re: US-Asia Peering Stephen J. Wilcox (Jan 09)
- Re: US-Asia Peering Randy Bush (Jan 09)
- Re: US-Asia Peering William B. Norton (Jan 09)
- Re: US-Asia Peering Randy Bush (Jan 09)
- Re: US-Asia Peering William B. Norton (Jan 09)
- Re: US-Asia Peering Paul Vixie (Jan 09)
- Re: US-Asia Peering Stephen Stuart (Jan 09)
- Re: US-Asia Peering Bill Woodcock (Jan 09)
- Re: US-Asia Peering Neil J. McRae (Jan 10)
- Re: US-Asia Peering Stephen J. Wilcox (Jan 10)
- Re: US-Asia Peering Bill Woodcock (Jan 10)
- Re: US-Asia Peering William B. Norton (Jan 10)
- Re: US-Asia Peering Stephen J. Wilcox (Jan 11)
- Re: US-Asia Peering Paul Vixie (Jan 11)
- Re: US-Asia Peering Stephen J. Wilcox (Jan 11)