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Re: Lazy Engineers and Viable Excuses
From: william () elan net
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 03:31:45 -0700 (PDT)
--On Tuesday, August 26, 2003 9:35 AM -0400 Leo Bicknell <bicknell () ufp org> wrote:Almost everyone filters customers. The large ISP's all have the same opinion, if small to medium sized players abuse the system
I wish this was true but it is not!!! In particular I call your attention to Qwest. Their customer in LA with AS29809 was announcing ip block 138.252.0.0/16, which is hijacked ip block, see details at http://www.completewhois.com/hijacked/files/138.252.0.0.txt It took us a little time to find out who to report it to because amount of abuse was small and all traceroutes were faked, here is part of it as it was several days ago: 8 204.255.169.138 (204.255.169.138) 33.299 ms 28.885 ms 30.188 ms 9 bur-core-01.inet.qwest.net (205.171.13.9) 35.992 ms 28.280 ms 10 bux-edge-01.inet.qwest.net (205.171.13.174) 32.468 ms 30.766 ms 11 tbr1-p012201.la2ca.ip.att.net (12.123.28.130) 40.104 ms <-- Faked here 12 gbr4-p20.sffca.ip.att.net (12.122.2.69) 51.680 ms 52.195 ms 50.259 13 gbr6-p70.sffca.ip.att.net (12.122.5.153) 62.751 ms 61.256 ms 14 ar2-p3110.sfcca.ip.att.net (12.123.195.81) 71.827 ms 71.376 ms 15 12.119.200.38 (12.119.200.38) 83.024 ms 82.612 ms 82.004 ms 16 203.148.164.170 (203.148.164.170) 89.747 ms 92.942 ms 87.614 ms 17 203.148.164.228 (203.148.164.228) 103.087 ms 99.536 ms 99.910 ms 18 svoa-bkk.a-net.net.th (203.148.200.145) 1104.594 ms 1098.491 ms 19 138.252.0.1 (138.252.0.1) 33.634 ms 33.220 ms 32.514 ms" And that is when "sh ip bgp" was showing: 8001 7911 209 29809 6395 1239 209 29809 5650 1239 209 29809
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- Re: Lazy Engineers and Viable Excuses, (continued)
- Re: Lazy Engineers and Viable Excuses Jared Mauch (Aug 26)
- Re: Lazy Engineers and Viable Excuses Iljitsch van Beijnum (Aug 26)
- RE: Lazy Engineers and Viable Excuses Mark Borchers (Aug 26)
- Re: Lazy Engineers and Viable Excuses Haesu (Aug 26)
- Re: Lazy Engineers and Viable Excuses Richard A Steenbergen (Aug 26)
- Re: Lazy Engineers and Viable Excuses Steve Carter (Aug 26)
- Re: Lazy Engineers and Viable Excuses John Payne (Aug 26)
- Re: Lazy Engineers and Viable Excuses Leo Bicknell (Aug 27)
- Re: Lazy Engineers and Viable Excuses John Payne (Aug 27)
- Re: Lazy Engineers and Viable Excuses Stephen J. Wilcox (Aug 27)
- Re: Lazy Engineers and Viable Excuses william (Aug 28)
- Re: Lazy Engineers and Viable Excuses Joe Abley (Aug 26)
- Re: Lazy Engineers and Viable Excuses Stephen J. Wilcox (Aug 26)
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- Re: Lazy Engineers and Viable Excuses Haesu (Aug 26)
- Re: Lazy Engineers and Viable Excuses Iljitsch van Beijnum (Aug 26)
- RE: Lazy Engineers and Viable Excuses Terry Baranski (Aug 26)
- Re: Route Programming (was Re: bgp route-map) Leo Bicknell (Aug 25)