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RE: Lazy Engineers and Viable Excuses
From: "Mark Borchers" <mborchers () igillc com>
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 10:58:50 -0500
During my tenure at a medium-sized ISP, I found that one of the more painful experiences was trying to assist small or first-time BGP customers in setting themselves up in the IRR and registering their routes. While I would take issue with some posters' comments that maintaining edge filters does not scale, I would certainly support the statement that providing IRR 101 tutorials definitely doesn't scale. For smaller sites, I feel that explicit permit prefix filters are the way to go. At the same time a filter is updated, if the customer was assigned space from one of our blocks, off go both a SWIP and a proxy IRR object. If the space is PA space from another provider, we'd submit a route object after verifying the assignment. In the case of PI space, we *might* take the trouble to give the IRR 101 training if the customer seemed trainable. Somewhere in the growth curve along which a customer increases in both size and credibility, I think there is a case for migrating them from prefix filtering to as-path filtering with a prefix limit. While not preventing any possibility of an illegitimate announcement, it does prevent a 7007 type incident along with scalability.
Current thread:
- Re: Lazy Engineers and Viable Excuses, (continued)
- Re: Lazy Engineers and Viable Excuses Jared Mauch (Aug 26)
- Re: Lazy Engineers and Viable Excuses Leo Bicknell (Aug 26)
- Re: Lazy Engineers and Viable Excuses Stephen J. Wilcox (Aug 26)
- Re: Lazy Engineers and Viable Excuses Matt Levine (Aug 26)
- Max TNT ping thing Geo. (Aug 26)
- Re: Max TNT ping thing Andy Johnson (Aug 26)
- Re: Max TNT ping thing Chris Adams (Aug 26)
- Re: Max TNT ping thing Andy Walden (Aug 27)
- Re: Lazy Engineers and Viable Excuses Jared Mauch (Aug 26)
- Re: Lazy Engineers and Viable Excuses Iljitsch van Beijnum (Aug 26)
- RE: Lazy Engineers and Viable Excuses Mark Borchers (Aug 26)
- Re: Lazy Engineers and Viable Excuses Haesu (Aug 26)
- Re: Lazy Engineers and Viable Excuses Richard A Steenbergen (Aug 26)
- Re: Lazy Engineers and Viable Excuses Steve Carter (Aug 26)
- Re: Lazy Engineers and Viable Excuses John Payne (Aug 26)
- Re: Lazy Engineers and Viable Excuses Leo Bicknell (Aug 27)
- Re: Lazy Engineers and Viable Excuses John Payne (Aug 27)
- Re: Lazy Engineers and Viable Excuses Stephen J. Wilcox (Aug 27)
- Re: Lazy Engineers and Viable Excuses william (Aug 28)
- Re: Lazy Engineers and Viable Excuses Joe Abley (Aug 26)
- Re: Lazy Engineers and Viable Excuses Stephen J. Wilcox (Aug 26)