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RE: Open relays and open proxies


From: Joseph Barnhart <flaboy () fdt net>
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 16:22:18 -0400 (EDT)


On this note, it's becomming quite popular actually with hosted sites at
least here, that spammers are getting domain names, and sending out their
trash with return addresses of valid domains which causes thousands of
returned messages to come back to email accounts of the domains.

Sometimes you spend hours trying to explain to angry individuals that:

1.  The site you host never sent the spam.

2.  The customer you host must deal with the returns as best they can,
    as they come from random addresses.

If anyone else has come up with a way to effectively handle this I'd love
to hear about it.

--jb

On Wed, 30 Apr 2003, McBurnett, Jim wrote:


Nathan,
tell me, If I am a disgruntled former employee, and I decide my best
method of revenge is to use a forging spam app to send out False
advertisements about your company, how does that fit into you thoughts?

Jim

Why yes, yes it does.

Why exactly should you be able to profit from spamming without hassle
or reproach? 

If you dislike being complained to because your customers are
spamming, your options are clear: ignore the complaints (in which case
the issue will certainly be taken up with your upstream providers), or
stop taking the spammers' money.

Spam does not exist in a vacuum.  It's an economy like any other, and
someone who hosts the spammers' sites is very much an active
participant.

As Joe-Bob Briggs says, "I'm surprised I have to explain this."

-n





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Joseph Barnhart
Florida Digital Turnpike
Network Administrator
http://www.fdt.net
http://www.agilitybb.net
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