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Re: Get as much IP space as you ever dreamed of, was: Re: Looking to buy IPv4 addresses from class C swamp
From: "Roland Verlander" <rolyv () bigpond com>
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 11:55:06 +1000
[Note: I am not suggesting that anyone should do anything that is described here] Kai Schlichting wrote:
On 4/28/2003 at 9:32 AM, billmojo () australia edu wrote:Our client wants to purchase a number of IPv4 addresses. Yes we know
ARIN
allocates them but many people have had problems routing the new
addresses
and we don't have the time for those sort of problems.<sarcasm on> Why settle for a few /24's, when you can have the whole enchilada for pennys on the dollar! http://spamhaus.org/sbl/listings.lasso?isp=arin
Don't beleive the listing of hijacked netblocks @ Spamhaus, its maintained by someone who doesn't seem to know the difference between spammer-hijacked netblocks & netblocks assigned by ISPs to thier users.
Like many of our convicted felons^W^Wfriends in the criminal trespassing^Wemail business, the new strategy to help yourself to a few /16's without stupid questions being asked is now: - scan the routing tables for /16-size holes in space that has been assigned in the timeframe 1989 through 1995.
For APNIC, only look in 203/10 and look for /24-ish ones registered in 1993-early 1997.
- determine if said "hole" is registered with any relevant address space registry (ARIN,RIPE,APNIC, but LACNIC need not apply), and the space is not routed. - determine if all registered POCs for the space are dead by way of the domains having expired - spend less than $10 to re-register the "missing" domains, using the original contact details (and persons) still listed in the IP space registration.
Or, if it has no email address you can just register a domain for the original owner with the same contact information thats in the current IP whois and mail ARIN from that in the original owners name.
- find yourself some nice, conspiring providers like AS 6453, 14551, 6939 or 10910
Or Qwest (AS209).
</sarcasm> I am sure you can figure out the likely operational impact resulting from appearance of hijacked/stolen IP space just about now. AS 16506 is routing VPN tunnel endpoints for Al-Qaeda, you said? you surely must be joking, or it's a really bad rumor not reflecting reality, Sir...
AS16506 has its only feeds from Teleglobe & UUNET.
Current thread:
- Get as much IP space as you ever dreamed of, was: Re: Looking to buy IPv4 addresses from class C swamp, (continued)
- Get as much IP space as you ever dreamed of, was: Re: Looking to buy IPv4 addresses from class C swamp Kai Schlichting (Apr 28)
- Re: Get as much IP space as you ever dreamed of, was: Re: Looking to buy IPv4 addresses from class C swamp Daniel Golding (Apr 28)
- Re: Get as much IP space as you ever dreamed of, was: Re: Looking to buy IPv4 addresses from class C swamp Christopher L. Morrow (Apr 28)
- Re[2]: Get as much IP space as you ever dreamed of, was: Re: Looking to buy IPv4 addresses from class C swamp Richard Cox (Apr 28)
- Re: Get as much IP space as you ever dreamed of Joe Provo (Apr 28)
- Re: Get as much IP space as you ever dreamed of Christopher L. Morrow (Apr 28)
- Re: Get as much IP space as you ever dreamed of Ron da Silva (Apr 29)
- Re: Get as much IP space as you ever dreamed of, was: Re: Looking to buy IPv4 addresses from class C swamp Daniel Golding (Apr 28)
- Get as much IP space as you ever dreamed of, was: Re: Looking to buy IPv4 addresses from class C swamp Kai Schlichting (Apr 28)
- Re: Get as much IP space as you ever dreamed of, was: Re: Looking to buy IPv4 addresses from class C swamp Stephen Sprunk (Apr 28)
- Re: Get as much IP space as you ever dreamed of, was: Re: Looking to buy IPv4 addresses from class C swamp Christian Malo (Apr 28)
- Re: Get as much IP space as you ever dreamed of, was: Re: Looking to buy IPv4 addresses from class C swamp Daniel Golding (Apr 29)
- Re: Get as much IP space as you ever dreamed of, was: Re: Looking to buy IPv4 addresses from class C swamp Jack Bates (Apr 29)
- Re: Get as much IP space as you ever dreamed of, was: Re: Looking to buy IPv4 addresses from class C swamp Roland Verlander (Apr 29)
- Re[2]: Get as much IP space as you ever dreamed of, was: Re: Looking to buy IPv4 addresses from class C swamp Richard Cox (Apr 29)
- Re: Get as much IP space as you ever dreamed of, was: Re: Looking to buy IPv4 addresses from class C swamp Jack Bates (Apr 30)