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Re: How do you stop outgoing spam?
From: Scott Francis <darkuncle () darkuncle net>
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 11:10:40 -0700
On Mon, Sep 09, 2002 at 06:15:12PM -0700, lear () cisco com said:
Rafi Sadowsky wrote:Maybe I'm missing something obvious but do how you get rate-limiting per TCP *flow* with Cisco IOS ?There is something called flow-based RED (FRED) but it consumes a whole lot of memory because you have to keep track of lots more state. I don't know about that code. At the least what you can do is use the rate-limit command and rate limit *all* outbound TCP/80 traffic (or for that matter all access-list captured traffic). Now, doing so will make any but the most trivial outbound TCP/80 absolutely painful, and will cause tail drop. See Cathy Wittbrodt's work in this space, which was presented at NANOG some time ago. Note, I'm not saying you should *do* this. It may be going a bit too far for anti-spam.
Exactly. If operators as a group would just take the most elementary of steps to decrease spam (along the lines Paul suggested), the effects would be so significant that I think we wouldn't be worrying about HTTP spam traffic (at least for the time being). The fraction of spam traffic that runs over HTTP rather than SMTP is, I suspect, rather small. If anybody has numbers on this, I'd be interested in hearing them one way or the other. -- -= Scott Francis || darkuncle (at) darkuncle (dot) net =- GPG key CB33CCA7 has been revoked; I am now 5537F527 illum oportet crescere me autem minui
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- Re: How do you stop outgoing spam? Brad Knowles (Sep 09)
- Re: How do you stop outgoing spam? John M. Brown (Sep 09)
- Re: How do you stop outgoing spam? Brad Knowles (Sep 09)
- Re: How do you stop outgoing spam? Scott Francis (Sep 17)
- Re: How do you stop outgoing spam? Brad Knowles (Sep 17)
- Re: How do you stop outgoing spam? Scott Francis (Sep 18)
- Re: How do you stop outgoing spam? Brad Knowles (Sep 09)
- Re: How do you stop outgoing spam? Eliot Lear (Sep 09)
- Re: How do you stop outgoing spam? Rafi Sadowsky (Sep 09)
- Re: How do you stop outgoing spam? Eliot Lear (Sep 09)
- Re: How do you stop outgoing spam? Scott Francis (Sep 17)
- Re: How do you stop outgoing spam? John M. Brown (Sep 09)
- Re: How do you stop outgoing spam? alex (Sep 10)
- Re: How do you stop outgoing spam? Valdis . Kletnieks (Sep 10)
- Re: How do you stop outgoing spam? Iljitsch van Beijnum (Sep 10)
- Re: How do you stop outgoing spam? Valdis . Kletnieks (Sep 10)
- Re: How do you stop outgoing spam? Iljitsch van Beijnum (Sep 10)