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RE: IP renumbering timeframe


From: Ralph Doncaster <ralph () istop com>
Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 18:47:21 -0400 (EDT)


But it would seem that given the attitude many have expressed here of "if
they're not your customer any more, screw 'em.", then relying on the honor
system is unwise.

Ralph Doncaster
principal, IStop.com     
div. of Doncaster Consulting Inc.

On Mon, 6 May 2002, Daniel Golding wrote:


Indeed, you have hit upon one of the significant weaknesses of the ARIN IP
registry system - that it relies largely upon the integrity of it's members,
in order to properly issue and conserve address space. ARIN is largely based
upon the honor system, with one "check" on the potentially dishonest being a
general unwilling to be branded an IP address cheat or poor internet
citizen.

Of course, should one choose to be somewhat less upstanding of an internet
citizen, posting one's intentions to do so on NANOG, frequented as it is by
various ARIN people, might not be such a good idea.

- Daniel Golding

Ralph Doncaster angrily ruminated....

What it tells me is I should have wasted enough space to consume 8 /24s
long ago, so I could get a /20 directly from ARIN.  I assign IPs to
customers very conservatively.  Multiple DSL customers with static IPs are
put on a shared subnet instead of one subnet per customer.  I easily could
have used 8 /24's a year ago and still conformed to ARIN rules.  At the
time I was only using 3 /24's.  We recently reached 8 /24s and applied to
ARIN a few weeks ago for a /20, but it sounds like the best thing to do is
to use IPs in the most inefficient way possible (while still conforming to
ARIN policy) in order to quickly qualify for PI space.

-Ralph






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