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Re: Effective ways to deal with DDoS attacks?


From: Iljitsch van Beijnum <iljitsch () muada com>
Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 19:08:35 +0200 (CEST)


On Thu, 2 May 2002, Christopher L. Morrow wrote:

Congrats on re-inventing the wheel :( This is what
mazuu/arbor/wanwall(riverhead now?) all do... this is also the way
CenterTrack(tm robert stone) was kind of supposed to work.

Thanks for the kind works.

Just to be clear: I'm not working on a _product_, just on a paper
explaining how to do this using standard components and protocols.

As near as I can tell this doesn't scale too well in a large network.

If you have a router that can forward 10 Gbps into the right direction,
you can also have a router forward 10 Gbps in the wrong direction. That's
pretty much all it takes.

This is a shame, but its a reality. Additionally 20k sources max? that's not
nearly enough, how many addresses are in 0/0 ? you should atleast plan for
this contingency...

The idea is to use unicast RPF. So you're only limited by the number of
routes a Cisco can hold. 20k per customer under attack should be doable
without too much effort, more should be possible, but filtering 0/0
defeats the purpose. Also, it can be done using a single line, so no
problem there.


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