RE: How many protocols...

["Matt Levine" <matt () deliver3 com>]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-nanog () merit edu [mailto:owner-nanog () merit edu] On 
> Behalf Of Stephen J. Wilcox
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 2:03 AM
> To: Matt Levine
> Cc: nanog () merit edu; 'Stephen Sprunk'
> Subject: RE: How many protocols...
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> I dont provide multicast, am I not an ISP by your definition? 
> I think so..
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> Steve

If *I* used multicast, and that was a significant part of my 'Internet
Experience', and you didn't provide it, I'd very quickly stop
considering you an ISP.  Thankfully, the only person who really cares
what I consider an ISP is me, so I wouldn't worry.



> On Tue, 11 Jun 2002, Matt Levine wrote:
>
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-nanog () merit edu [mailto:owner-nanog () merit edu] On 
> > > Behalf Of Stephen Sprunk
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 8:33 AM
> > > To: Magnus Boden
> > > Cc: North American Noise and Off-topic Gripes
> > > Subject: Re: How many protocols...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thus spake "Magnus Boden" <mb () ozaba cx>
> > > > I wouldn't call it an isp if they only allowed tcp, udp 
> and icmp.
> > > > It should be all ip protocols.
> > > >
> > > > There can be a maximum of 256 of them. The isp 
> shouldn't care what
> > > > the ipheader->protocol field is set to.
> > >
> > > There is at least one ISP here in the US that filters 
> > > protocol 50 (IPsec ESP).
> > > Does that mean they're really not an ISP?
> > >
> > > S
> > They can still call themselves whatever they want, but I wouldn't
> > consider them an ISP, as they're not provider a very key part of my
> > "Internet experience".  I'd feel the same way if they 
> filtered google.
> > Regards,
> > Matt
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Regards,
Matt
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