Re: Evil PGP sigs thread must die. was Re: Stop it with putting your e-mail body in my MUA OT

[Scott Francis <darkuncle () darkuncle net>]

On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 03:45:41PM -0400, andy () xecu net said:
[snip]
> Yes, but once again you must consider content, given that most mail
> clients don't automatically verify signatures. Most of us will have to

And _therein_ lies the problem. And if the clued among us do not pressure
vendors to Do The Right Thing, history has proven they will Do The Profitable
Thing instead.

> Lest anybody confuse my argument, I think PGP signatures are a good thing.
> I just don't think people need to sign everything they send. And I'm
> talking about posts to Nanog here, not private communication. In private
> communication, it's reasonable to sign most everything sent with official
> business purpose.

As I mentioned before - sign everything. It's just a good habit to be in, and
there are no good arguments against it (except for the preceding one about
MUAs not supporting PGP commands, and _that_ can be changed with pressure
from those purchasing the software. Which (surprise!) many of us are either
in charge of, or have influence over.)

> If the majority of mail clients automatically verified pgp signatures, I
> would be totally in favor of signing every single email. But the simple

So _help create that majority_. Sitting around complaining on NANOG that support
doesn't exist will not improve the situation. Let your vendor know that this
is an important^W^Wa critical feature for you.

> fact is that not only do most mail clients not support that, many mail
> clients can't even display the signed text inline! Surely a compromise is
> needed for now.

As the mutt homepage says: All mail clients suck. This one sucks less.

If we want things to Not Suck, the only way it's going to happen is if we
put some effort into making it so.
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