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Re: Paul's Mailfrom (Was: IETF SMTP Working Group Proposal at


From: Barry Shein <bzs () world std com>
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 18:14:22 -0400 (EDT)



Oh to some extent even the first time it's because they're slackers.

If instead of a brainless rush to sign up dial-up accts and check
credentials later they demanded a credit card or other verifiable
information (a phone number we can call you back at to activate) then
they'd burn up about 99.9% of the opportunities for spammers to get
throw-away, anonymous accounts.


I say this from absolutely first-hand experience.



On August 27, 2002 at 15:22 vixie () vix com (Paul Vixie) wrote:

vixie () vix com (Paul Vixie) writes:

whenever you get spammed, it's because some isp somewhere is a slacker,

what i meant to say was "whenever you're getting repeat spam from the same
place, day after week after month, it's because some isp somewhere is a
slacker."  any given isp can be attacked and used to send outbound spam.
but not every isp can be used in this way over and over by the same bunch
of people.  to the second group, i say: "please shift the cost of dealing
with spam from your network, back inside your network."
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