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Re: Eliminating physical colocation (was Re: Shared facilities)


From: "Vincent J. Bono" <vbono () vinny org>
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 14:50:21 -0400


We have always had more of an issue with "Union Members" rather than
"Verizon Employees" per se.  If you don't use Union Labor to install in
Boston or New York you had best have a secured cabinet or else 25 pair
bundles seem to spontaneously develop slices.

----- Original Message -----
From: "N. Richard Solis" <nrsolis () aol net>
To: "Sean Donelan" <sean () donelan com>; <nanog () merit edu>
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 2:17 PM
Subject: RE: Eliminating physical colocation (was Re: Shared facilities)



The RBOCs have a long history of using the "security" card to attempt to
squelch the requirement for physical collocation by the FCC and the PUCs.
In my experience, the colo providers had more to worry about from the
employees of the RBOC w.r.t. equipment sabotage than other colo customers.
I saw this in Florida during the 95-96 timeframe and I'm sure that it's
been
repeated elsewhere.

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nanog () merit edu [mailto:owner-nanog () merit edu]On Behalf Of
Sean Donelan
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 1:51 PM
To: nanog () merit edu
Subject: Eliminating physical colocation (was Re: Shared facilities)



On Wed, 21 Aug 2002, Martin Hannigan wrote:
Since Sept 11, my experience probably doesn't cut the mustard, but
that's
how it has been to this point.

Consider the various public statements on colocation security.

http://www.state.ma.us/dpu/catalog/6688.htm

   "Verizon MA believes that the most effective means of ensuring network
   safety and reliability is to eliminate physical collocation entirely in
   all its COs, converting existing physical collocation arrangements to
   virtual and requiring that all future collocation arrangements be
   virtual only."

Of course, this is a very different colocation model than used by
companies such as Equinix.  Just because they use the same terms doesn't
make them the same thing.





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