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Re: IETF SMTP Working Group Proposal at smtpng.org


From: Avleen Vig <lists-nanog () silverwraith com>
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 03:10:22 +0100 (BST)


On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, william () elan net wrote:

This is copy of the message sent to IETF mail list. As subject said,
I'd like to organize IETF working group to define new additions to SMTP.

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As everyone I'm sure have seen on the last "why is spam a problem" and
other similar threads on ietf as well as numerous similar threads on
other lists and boards, there is a serious need to do something to limit
amount of unsolicited email. While the roots maybe social issue I do not
see why we can not work on it from technical point of view. In addition
to that during last years, I'v seen real need for new features to be
added into SMTP, such as ones for callback, delayed transmission, delivery
notification,secure communications, etc, etc and there are in fact
several drafts available on some issues. As far as anti-spam  mechanisms I
do not belive we should force some particular method on everyone but
rather built several verification features into protocol and allow server
operators to themselve choose if they want to use it. Where the features
were use the email would be considered more secure and users can use that
to sort out mail (as many do already with special filters).

William,

While not trying to discourage you from your efforts, I would like to
recommend that you not reinvent the wheel. The list you have presented
already has some possible solutions to it which I have listed below.

Delayed transmission: Are we talking about rate limiting, or delivery of
specific messages at specific times? Either way this is more an MTA issue
in my eyes, than a protocol issue. Rate limiting is already availible in
at least one major Unix MTA.

Delivery notification: Possibly a protocol issue. This is availible as a
semi-standard. RFC1891 is your friend:
ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc1891.txt

Secure communication: TLS, SSL.



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