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RE: Fwd: Re: Digital Island sponsors DoS attempt?
From: JC Dill <nanog () vo cnchost com>
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 21:26:39 -0800
On 03:01 PM 10/28/2001 -0800, Mike Batchelor wrote: > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > >Vixie said: >> That way lies madness. Senders have no such rights, and the >> determination of a message's legitimacy lies with recipients (and >> perhaps infrastructure owners) NOT senders. > >How is the recipient of a message that has been blocked before he sees it to >decide whether it was legitimate?What business is it of yours what procedures other people might take to block email they don't want delivered into their inbox?
>Since most of what MAPS is about is reducing complaints from customers to >their ISP, and thereby reducing support costs, I guess the question is >answered. If no one complains, there is no problem. Since no one can >complain about unseen messages, that means that collateral damage is not >really a problem, since it does not increase support costs.Hi, Bob? This is Susan. I haven't received a reply from you regarding the email I sent yesterday, did you get it? You didn't? Hmmm. Let me try resending it.
Hi Bob? This is Susan again. Did you get that second email yet? No?! Maybe you should call your ISP to find out why! Yes, I already called mine, they don't have any info, they say the mail server logs show that both the messages were delivered to your ISP.
Hi, Mr. ISP support guy? This is Bob. It seems that I'm not getting all of my email....
...................... Collateral damage IS a problem, but that's part of why it works to reduce spam. jc
Current thread:
- Re: Fwd: Re: Digital Island sponsors DoS attempt?, (continued)
- Re: Fwd: Re: Digital Island sponsors DoS attempt? Christopher A. Woodfield (Oct 29)
- Re: Fwd: Re: Digital Island sponsors DoS attempt? John Osmon (Oct 29)
- RBL & Broadband (WAS: Digital Island sponsors DoS attempt?) Patrick W. Gilmore (Oct 29)
- Re: RBL & Broadband (WAS: Digital Island sponsors DoS attempt?) Paul Vixie (Oct 29)
- Re: Fwd: Re: Digital Island sponsors DoS attempt? Christopher A. Woodfield (Oct 29)
- RBL & Broadband (WAS: Digital Island sponsors DoS John Osmon (Oct 29)
- Re: Fwd: Re: Digital Island sponsors DoS attempt? JC Dill (Oct 29)
- RE: Fwd: Re: Digital Island sponsors DoS attempt? Mike Batchelor (Oct 30)
- Re: Fwd: Re: Digital Island sponsors DoS attempt? John Payne (Oct 30)
- Re: Digital Island sponsors DoS attempt? Ryan Tucker (Oct 30)
- RE: Fwd: Re: Digital Island sponsors DoS attempt? JC Dill (Oct 28)
- Re: Fwd: Re: Digital Island sponsors DoS attempt? Adam McKenna (Oct 28)
- Re: Fwd: Re: Digital Island sponsors DoS attempt? Valdis . Kletnieks (Oct 29)
- RE: Fwd: Re: Digital Island sponsors DoS attempt? Charles Sprickman (Oct 29)
- Re: Fwd: Re: Digital Island sponsors DoS attempt? Wojtek Zlobicki (Oct 29)
- RE: Fwd: Re: Digital Island sponsors DoS attempt? jlewis (Oct 29)
- Re: Fwd: Re: Digital Island sponsors DoS attempt? Jeffrey Haas (Oct 29)
- Re: Fwd: Re: Digital Island sponsors DoS attempt? Paul A Vixie (Oct 29)
- Re: Fwd: Re: Digital Island sponsors DoS attempt? Jeffrey Haas (Oct 29)