RE: [SOT Rant] Non-hostile probes / opt-in/out

["Quibell, Marc" <mquibell () icn state ia us>]

Maybe you should ping NS01.ARMY.MIL about 2400 times in 3 hour and see if
you don't get a visit? Pinging a website 2 times means nothing..

Marc 



-----Original Message-----
From: James Thomason [mailto:james () divide org]
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 1:51 PM
To: Dan Hollis
Cc: Mike Batchelor; nanog () merit edu
Subject: RE: [SOT Rant] Non-hostile probes / opt-in/out



PING www.army.mil (140.183.234.10): 56 data bytes
^C
--- www.army.mil ping statistics ---
2 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss

Am I a terrorist now too?

On Fri, 26 Oct 2001, Dan Hollis wrote:

> On Fri, 26 Oct 2001, Mike Batchelor wrote:
> > > <rant>
> > >   Digital Island is certainly not alone in their practice of
> > > assuming an opt-in stance.
> > I think you know that for an operation like Digital Island or Akamai,
asking
> > every network operator permission to probe is for all practical
purposes,
> > impossible.  Insisting on opt-in is insisting on these companies going
out
> > of business, or not even starting up at all.
>
> I wonder if Digital Island "probes" .mil sites.
>
> -Dan
> -- 
> [-] Omae no subete no kichi wa ore no mono da. [-]