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Re: Digital Island sponsors DoS attempt


From: Ian Cooper <ian () the-coopers org>
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 10:26:45 -0700


At 09:45 -0500 2001-10-26, Quibell, Marc wrote:
Curious Chris,
What IP's are they probing? LAN IPs? Or just the DNS server as they claim?

Er, what if the DNS "server" happens to also be the host generating the query?

And what then do these pings have to do with [quote from D.I.] "finding the
nearest servers from our customers (Microsoft) to you"? What good does it do
to ping to find distances,
since the timing on the internet is not a constant, and neither are the
pops, routes, hops...etc. This is why we use routing tables that are not
constant...

It's one additional measure that probably wasn't available beforehand. One could also potentially correlate with what the routing tables are suggesting to see if there's a "better" way to get content out of a different surrogate to the requesting host(s).

Routing tables define reachability but aren't so hot at determining the actual performance of an end-to-end connection. If you're only interested in the packets getting there "eventually" then that's OK. If you need the packets to get there in the most optimal manner (and yes, "optimal" can mean many things) then you probably need to look at some other way to do things.

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