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Re: HR 1542
From: Charles Sprickman <spork () inch com>
Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 17:42:05 -0400 (EDT)
Adelphia is not a regulated public utility, that's the difference. If you want to see some serious battle over this issue, check the various Dingell/Tauzin threads at dslreports.com... My basic argument is that the copper is more of a public resource. ATT was granted a monopoly way back when, and the ILECs have certainly recouped all their costs on that particular resource. Adelphia did not inherit their cable plant, and is likely still paying it off. The ILECs can refuse to resell other elements, but the copper really should remain and unbundled element. The best (and most unlikely) remedy I've seen is to put all the copper under control of a neutral third party through which both the ILECs and CLECs would order lines... Charles | Charles Sprickman | Internet Channel | INCH System Administration Team | (212)243-5200 | spork () inch com | access () inch com On Sat, 5 May 2001, Steve Sobol wrote:
"Joseph T. Klein" wrote:Hmmm .... I don't think this improves competition.Joseph T. Klein +1 414 915 7489 Senior Network Engineer jtk () titania net Adelphia Business Solutions joseph.klein () adelphiacom com[Joseph, this mini-rant is not directed specifically at you, so please do not take it personally.] I felt compelled to answer this. You work for a company operating in another industry that is doing much the same thing! I don't see Adelphia's cable Internet services in Cleveland being opened to other ISPs. (Yes, I know that Adelphia just entered the market about a year ago, and yes, I know that the cablemodem rollout is far from complete.) Time Warner isn't, either. I heard about them doing it in about a dozen test markets (Central Ohio being one of them) but haven't heard anything since then. To the south of my home, RoadRunner is *huge* in Akron, Canton and Columbus. But it's the same old song and dance... And I don't understand why every single ISP (regardless of size) isn't doing more to stand up for open access. Ultimately, it will become an issue of survival. -- Tired of Earthlink? Get JustTheNet! Nationwide Dialup, ISDN, DSL, ATM, Frame Relay, T-1, T-3, and more. EARTHLINK AMNESTY PROGRAM: Buy a year, get two months free More info coming soon to http://JustThe.net, or e-mail me!
Current thread:
- HR 1542 Joseph T. Klein (May 05)
- Re: HR 1542 Steve Sobol (May 05)
- Re: HR 1542 Charles Sprickman (May 05)
- Re: HR 1542 Steve Sobol (May 05)
- Re[2]: HR 1542 Joe McGuckin (May 05)
- Re: HR 1542 Daniel Senie (May 05)
- Re: HR 1542 Joseph T. Klein (May 05)
- Re: HR 1542 David Lesher (May 05)
- Re: HR 1542 Jeff Mcadams (May 05)
- Re: HR 1542 Steve Sobol (May 06)
- Re: HR 1542 Jeff Mcadams (May 06)
- Re: HR 1542 Charles Sprickman (May 05)
- Re: HR 1542 Steve Sobol (May 05)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- RE: HR 1542 Roeland Meyer (May 06)
- Re: HR 1542 [OT, anti-BS attempt, US] Fletcher E Kittredge (May 07)