RE: xDSL providers that will route /24

["Segal, Mark" <Mark.Segal () Corp Axxent Ca>]

Although we are in the Toronto Area, I will still put my two cents in...

We are a xDSL provider in Canada (using rhythms Canada loops (which we
happen to be a 50/50 JV partner)).  We will route customer provided IP
space; If they "actually" own it, and also if they are not a service
provider.  Since many companies who have portable space, were either around
10 years ago.. :)  or are service providers we usually are very cautious on
this front.  Under no circumstances will be BGP peer with a xDSL customer.

The reasoning is quite simple, business grade xDSL is oversubscribed (not as
much as residential) that's why it is so much cheaper, and someone with IP
space of their own are usually going to use more than their fair share.. So
we them to buy a T1.. :).

Also, many xDSL providers think this way, so if you want some sort of
redundant guaranteed uptime, xDSL isn't all its cracked up to be, plus the
SLA's are usually poor (our avg downtime is much higher for xDSL than other
access method).


Mark

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Mark Segal
Director, Data and Internet Planning
Axxent Corp.
Tel: (416)907-2858


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roland Dobbins [mailto:rdobbins () netmore net]
> Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2001 4:09 PM
> To: michael
> Cc: nanog () merit edu
> Subject: Re: dsl providers that will route /24
>
>
>
> Try www.rhythms.com.
>
> michael wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Business grade.  And it was suggested that I follow up with 
> more specific
> > location.
> >
> > California, San Francisco bay area.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Michael...
> >
> > On Sun, 25 Mar 2001, Jason Lixfeld wrote:
> >
> > > Are we talking business grade DSL or Resi grade DSL?
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Roeland Meyer [mailto:rmeyer () mhsc com]
> > > > Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2001 3:04 PM
> > > > To: 'michael'; nanog () merit edu
> > > > Subject: RE: dsl providers that will route /24
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > If you find such, I want to know too.
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: michael [mailto:michael () aplatform com]
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2001 8:08 AM
> > > > > To: nanog () merit edu
> > > > > Subject: dsl providers that will route /24
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > > Looking for contact information on dsl providers that route
> > > > > IP space not
> > > > > within their assigned block.  I am also curious on high
> > > > speed wireless
> > > > > doing the same.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Michael...
> > > >
> > > >
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