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Re: BGP instability (was Re: Exodus Down)
From: Adam Rothschild <asr () latency net>
Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 02:33:17 -0400
[ Disclaimer: I am not an attorney, and I'm not about to dispense potentially bogus legal advice, especially on a technical list like this. I've you've got problems with the Exodus NDA and the lack of open communication resulting from it - perceived or otherwise - you might want to drop <adam.wegner () exodus net> a line. ] On Sat, Jun 23, 2001 at 10:49:21PM -0400, Vivien M. wrote:
Hmmmmm... You somehow found a way to get this information without agreeing to the NDA? Impressive. (For the people around here who aren't Exodus customers: subscribing to their network engineering/outage list theoretically implies agreeing to an NDA, which is presumably why no one here mentioned this)
Is that to insinuate that all Exodus customers have signed the mystical customer NDA? Or more importantly, that this document will even hold up in court? And, how all-encompassing is this document? Passing around "confidential" notices of facilities issues is likely a bad thing(TM). But, are customers forbidden from publishing uptime and environmental statistics they've collected in the course of normal monitoring, if such statistics could indicate problems with their IDC's power (got blackouts in Sunnyvale and Jersey City?) and HVAC? That said, if you want to play by the rules, I've found the following to be a far more useful resource than NANOG speculation/FUD, for both customers and non-customers alike: echo subscribe | mail netinfo-request () bengi exodus net On Sat, Jun 23, 2001 at 08:47:08PM -0700, Sean Donelan wrote:
Trying to apply an NDA to outage information has always struck me as a bit stupid. After all, NDA or not, people know you had an outage, what they don't know is your explanation why it happened. As we've seen, when there is a lack of good information, people will make up stories to fit.
I could not agree more.
Current thread:
- BGP instability (was Re: Exodus Down) Sean Donelan (Jun 23)
- RE: BGP instability (was Re: Exodus Down) Vivien M. (Jun 23)
- RE: BGP instability (was Re: Exodus Down) Rich Fulton (Jun 23)
- RE: BGP instability (was Re: Exodus Down) Vivien M. (Jun 23)
- RE: BGP instability (was Re: Exodus Down) Alex Rubenstein (Jun 23)
- Re: BGP instability (was Re: Exodus Down) Adam Rothschild (Jun 23)
- Re: BGP instability (was Re: Exodus Down) Adam Rothschild (Jun 23)
- Re: BGP instability (was Re: Exodus Down) mike harrison (Jun 24)
- Re: BGP instability (was Re: Exodus Down) Jeremy Hartman (Jun 24)
- RE: BGP instability (was Re: Exodus Down) Rich Fulton (Jun 23)
- RE: BGP instability (was Re: Exodus Down) Vivien M. (Jun 23)
- Re: BGP instability (was Re: Exodus Down) Andy Bradford (Jun 24)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- RE: BGP instability (was Re: Exodus Down) Sean Donelan (Jun 23)