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Re: 95th Percentile = Lame


From: "Alexei Roudnev" <alex () relcom EU net>
Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 12:54:37 -0700


I worked for Relcom ISP, and we just introduced this 95% billinfg as a big
advantage.

The reason (and idea) of 95% rule is very simple. If you (customer) overload your
link, you cause a lot of extra (unpayed) traffic inside
your ISP; without this rule you will not want to upgrade and so waste bandwidth
payed by the otheer customers.

May be, 95% is not the best way to measure overload (packet loss is better) but at
least this work, and so UUnet was smard introducing this rule.

Are there alternatives to this? Of course, they are - provide worst
(oversubscribed) performance, or bill by every byte (we did it, too),
or get out of the business.

Of course, other telecommunications does niot use such rule - they just charge you
for the full bandwidth no matter do you use it or not. It's the difference.


----- Original Message -----
From: "James Thomason" <james () divide org>
To: <nanog () merit edu>
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 11:39 AM
Subject: 95th Percentile = Lame




If I am not mistaken, the true "benefit" to 95% billing is that it allows
the provider to charge for bits they never delivered.  The average will
skew on a burst of traffic (>5% of the average) and you pay for it as if
you had averaged that level the entire time.

It seems like quite an irrational settlement model. Why not simply bill
for every bit that crosses your network?  There certainly is a per-bit
cost.

I cannot, off the top of my head, think of another telecommunications
industry that relies on a system of averages for settlement.  It speaks
pretty clearly of how immature the Internet industry really is.

Or maybe not.  Perhaps the electrical suppliers here in California
should bill in the 95th percentile, and cite the Internet as a rational
example.

Regards,
James




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