Re: DDoS attacks

["Christopher L. Morrow" <chris () UU NET>]

Jon,
Perhaps when you have an attack, as you do quite often, you should call
our support number?? There is no reason we can't filter/block this traffic
for you... 

If you have a ticket for the incident in question I'd be happy to look
into this.


--Chris
(chris () uu net)
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On Thu, 12 Jul 2001, Jon Mansey wrote:

> At 11:54 PM -0400 7/11/01, John Fraizer wrote:
> > On Wed, 11 Jul 2001, Jon O . wrote:
> >
> > >  This is pathetic. Someone asks for help and you demean them with jokes.
> >
> > Who was joking?  I wasn't.  I suppose that we should all start posting
> > "HELP ME!" posts to NANOG instead of sending an email to/calling the NOC
> > of networks with which we are having issues with DIRECTLY.
>
> snip
>
> Have you ever tried emailing or calling the NOC of a Korean NSP for assistance?
>
> We recently ahem, "entertained" a huge (100Kpps +) DDOS from Korean 
> IPs. Even UUnet couldnt block it. We lost that $30k/m customer.
>
> Anyone have the email address for the KrNOG list :-)
>
> jm
>
> unsnip
>
> > All the
> > original poster did was add to the impact of the attack in question.  The
> > attackers can now say, "Look!  We kicked SO MUCH BUTT THAT THEY HAD TO GO
> > WHINE ON NANOG!  WE RULE!"
> >
> > >  your own network. However, I'm concluding from the type of behavior
> > >  displayed that most of you manage nothing larger than a couple T-1s.
> >
> > Think what you like.  I'm sure it isn't the first you've been wrong and
> > most likely won't be the last.
> >
> > >  There is no solution to this problem.
> >
> > OK.  No solution?  If that is the case, why are you wasting your time
> > posting about it?
> >
> > >  ...ACT AS YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE TREATED.
> >
> > If I had posted the message the original poster did, I would have FULLY
> > expected to be blasted/flamed/laughed at.  What is your point?
> >
> > > Both of you are in my shitheads for life book and the only way to get out
> > > is to apologize to the poster, CC: nanog and ask a good question about
> > > the attacks so that we might all learn something.
> >
> > The last time I checked, direct attacks and the use of foul language were
> > both in violation of the NANOG AUP (Item #4).  I believe it is YOU who
> > owes an apology.  [Note:  Get him Sue!]
> >
> >
> > ---
> > John Fraizer
> > EnterZone, Inc