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From: "Daniel L. Golding" <dan () netrail net>
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 23:16:08 -0500 (EST)


There are a number of boxes that can do this, or are in beta. It would be
a horrific mistake to base an exchange point of any size around one of
them. Talk about difficulty troubleshooting, not to mention managing
the exchange point. Get a Foundry BigIron 4000 or a Riverstone
SSR. Exchange point in a box, so to say. The Riverstone can support the
inverse-mux application nicely, on it's own, as can a Foundry, when
combined with a Tiara box.

Daniel Golding                           NetRail,Inc.
"Better to light a candle than to curse the darkness"

On Mon, 8 Jan 2001, Vadim Antonov wrote:




There's another option for IXP architecture, virtual routers over a
scalable fabric.  This is the only approach which combines capacity of
inverse-multiplexed parallel L1 point-to-point links and flexibility of
L2/L3 shared-media IXPs. The box which can do that is in field trials
(though i'm not sure the current release of software supports that
functionality).

--vadim


On Tue, 9 Jan 2001, Masataka Ohta wrote:


Randy;

BGP Route Reflector IXPs need a AS number. I'll send you a URL with a
whitepaper. The BGP Route Reflector IXPs have proved to offer a low entry
cost for ISPs (for those places that do not have the deep pockets to get
big routers).

except that big routers are not needed for small-isp exchanges.  remember,
an isp participating in such an exchange has only to add the prefixes of
their local peers to their routing, typically a dozen or so.  there are very
successful layer-two exchanges where the peers use what we think of as cpe
routers, e.g. cisco 2501s.  and what's nice is that this is on the right
path to exchange growth.

l3 exchange ponints are a labor suck and are fragile.

Maybe. However, l2 is for telco.

l2 exchange ponints are a labor suck and are fragile.

The right path is l1, though, then, there is less reason to have
exchange points.

It will be more obvious as the peering speed between two ISPs exceeds
that of a single physical interface.

                                            Masataka Ohta






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