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RE: The Death of TCP/IP
From: Roeland Meyer <rmeyer () mhsc com>
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 19:20:06 -0700
From: Wojtek Zlobicki [mailto:wojtekz () idirect com] Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 3:09 PM <RANT> Nothing other than anti-Microsoft propaganda. You cannot blame Microsoft for high market share.
But you can blame them for making Vbasic available to every email message that wants to rape your system. Boy, what a brain-fart that was. It still stinks. Repeat after me; nothing in an email message should be executable without express and very deliberate operator intervention.
The main reason that *Nix hosts are generally more resilient to these type of worms is that it is less likely for a non informed administrator to administer a *Nix sever.
False. A very large portion of the *nux machines are in this sad condition.
If everyone that had a IIS box available on the big I, installed all related patches, worms like Code Red would never propagate very far.
Sure they would, you'd just never notice it. A *real* programmer would have started CodeRed out at the current Level III version.
Raw socket support in NOT a bad thing. I wonder if Robert Cringely and Steve Gibson are friends.
Now here, we agree.
"Say goodbye to TCP/IP and to anonymous connections of any kind. Hello to Hailstorm, tracking everything down to the last mile, and a more business-friendly Internet with prioritized packet-handling. "
I've just been looking at Hailstorm, it sucks. Think "totalitarianism". Think, re-enforcment of monopoly position.
</RANT> I really encourage anyone with a tough skin, and looking for a good laugh to read this article. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Hough" <rch () acidpit org> To: <nanog () merit edu> Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 12:23 AM Subject: The Death of TCP/IPFelt like sharing this most amusing article that I discovered in my Inbox this morning: http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20010802.html -- Robert Hough (rch () acidpit org)
Current thread:
- The Death of TCP/IP Robert Hough (Aug 04)
- Re: The Death of TCP/IP Wojtek Zlobicki (Aug 05)
- Re: The Death of TCP/IP Owen DeLong (Aug 06)
- RE: The Death of TCP/IP andrew2 (Aug 06)
- Re: The Death of TCP/IP smoot (Aug 06)
- Re: The Death of TCP/IP Owen DeLong (Aug 06)
- RE: The Death of TCP/IP Mike Batchelor (Aug 06)
- RE: The Death of TCP/IP Dan Hollis (Aug 06)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- RE: The Death of TCP/IP Roeland Meyer (Aug 05)
- Re: The Death of TCP/IP Wojtek Zlobicki (Aug 05)
- Re: The Death of TCP/IP Valdis . Kletnieks (Aug 05)
- Re: The Death of TCP/IP Matthew S . Hallacy (Aug 06)
- CodeRed: New Variant? Seth M. Kusiak (Aug 06)
- Re: The Death of TCP/IP Wojtek Zlobicki (Aug 05)
- Re: The Death of TCP/IP Wojtek Zlobicki (Aug 05)
- RE: The Death of TCP/IP Roeland Meyer (Aug 06)
- Re: The Death of TCP/IP Michael (Aug 06)