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Re: Does AT&T provide IPv4HT ?
From: "JIM FLEMING" <jfleming () anet com>
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 15:18:36 -0600
I think we are in agreement. I am assuming that people will want to "touch" the TOS byte when they "create" a packet. I am also assuming that NANOG, as a group, would want to support "end-to-end" Internet services. That seems to imply that the NANOG people would endorse the notion of "what goes in comes out". That arrangement encourages "stability". It seems odd that we have all of these ICANN people running around telling everyone that the "stability" of the Internet needs to be preserved, and then on the other hand, people are flippantly claiming to have total disregard for the contents of packets as they transit the IPv4 "cloud". To top it off, some companies apparently want to be seen as "proud" or "cool" for changing the contents of customer's packets. ...and then want to be called...."real operators"...go figure... Jim Fleming http://www.unir.com Mars 128n 128e ----- Original Message ----- From: Jesper Skriver <jesper () skriver dk> To: Daniel Golding <dan () netrail net> Cc: JIM FLEMING <jfleming () anet com>; <klensin () jck com>; <mcade () att com>; Bellovin,Steven M (Steve) - ALRES <smb () att com>; <nanog () nanog org> Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 3:08 PM Subject: Re: Does AT&T provide IPv4HT ?
And I could add, the ones that doesn't touch the TOS byte today, will probably do it tomorrow ... /Jesper On Tue, Nov 21, 2000 at 03:04:51PM -0500, Daniel Golding wrote:All together now... "No one cares, Jim". - Dan Golding -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog () merit edu [mailto:owner-nanog () merit edu]On Behalf Of JIM FLEMING Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 2:28 PM To: klensin () jck com; mcade () att com; Bellovin,Steven M (Steve) - ALRES Cc: nanog () nanog org Subject: Does AT&T provide IPv4HT ? Does AT&T provide, "end-to-end" IPv4 IP Header Transport ? ....with the TOS field untouched ? Jim Fleming http://www.unir.com/images/architech.gif http://www.unir.com/images/address.gif http://www.unir.com/images/headers.gif http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/domainname/130dftmail/unir.txt http://msdn.microsoft.com/downloads/sdks/platform/tpipv6/start.asp
Current thread:
- Does AT&T provide IPv4HT ? JIM FLEMING (Nov 21)
- RE: Does AT&T provide IPv4HT ? Daniel Golding (Nov 21)
- Re: Does AT&T provide IPv4HT ? JIM FLEMING (Nov 21)
- Re: Does AT&T provide IPv4HT ? Jesper Skriver (Nov 21)
- Re: Does AT&T provide IPv4HT ? JIM FLEMING (Nov 21)
- RE: Does AT&T provide IPv4HT ? Daniel Golding (Nov 21)