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RE: CIDR Report


From: "Roeland Meyer (E-mail)" <rmeyer () mhsc com>
Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 10:35:04 -0700


I've mentioned this before, so I'll just note it lightly.
There are a growing number of companies (dot-coms are only one of them) that have small head-count (<4000), but are 
spread out from Sydney to New York, with many "lone eagles" in the MST zone. They could probably do everything on a 
portable /24. However, with everyone filtering out announcements less than /20, such companies are encouraged to drop 
NAT, and use other methods to justify a /19, just so they can participate in peering (I won't say whom, one is a CTI 
development company). The VPN solution is cute, but the entire VP then becomes single-homed, at the VPN gateway (The 
alternative is that each location gets their own /24, linked by a VPN, to the other /24s, there are serious performance 
issues with this approach and hte /24 may only represent a single actual user). All of this burns IP addresses. 

The point: Filtering BGP announcements costs in IP space allocations. There is a mathmatical relationship between IP 
address allocations, table sizes, and routing policies. Also, part of the relationship is determined by client business 
requirements.

Organizations are becomeing more geophysically diffused, with many end-nodes actually participating in multiple 
organizations. This is only starting now (I still see over 100K nodes actually doing this), it will get much worse.

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nanog () merit edu [mailto:owner-nanog () merit edu]On Behalf Of
Mikael Abrahamsson
Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2000 2:10 AM
To: nanog () nanog org
Subject: Re: CIDR Report



On Sat, 13 May 2000 pjnesser () Nesser COM wrote:

But if you look at the last 250 days or so you see that the 
table has
grown by more than 16k routes.  So we are seeing growth at 
300% of what we
saw for the last 5 plus years.  It also looks annoyingly 
geometric or
perhaps exponential, instead of the nice linear growth 
since CIDR was
introduced.  

If you just check from 01/01/99 to date then it looks linear 
or at least
close to linear.
 
I guess it *could* be that growing amount of new companies getting
internet access is increasing. Is there any data that show "CIDR GAIN"
from the cidr report, so we can see if the increase corresponds to an
increase in (perhaps unneccessary) smaller announcements in 
larger blocks,
or if it is actually just a lot more blocks allocated that needs to be
routed. Any stats on arin/ripe/apnic new allocations of 
blocks in the same
timeframe? Both in terms of IP adresses and in number of blocks of IP
adresses. This would also give us some kind of hint as to 
when IPv4 space
will be exhausted (or are there already projections about this?)

-- 
Mikael Abrahamsson    email: swmike () swm pp se





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