Re: more-specifics in class B space?

[Jeremy Porter <jerry () fc net>]

Looks like they have a routing registry to me:
whois -h rr.level3.net 63.211.112.0

% RIPEdb(3.0.0a13) with ISI RPSL extensions

route:         63.211.112.0/24
descr:         /24 for Wayport POP
origin:        AS14654
mnt-by:        WAYPORT-MNT
changed:       noc () wayport net 20000322
source:        LEVEL3

Why the bogus route, I don't know.

Although this is pretty good:
whois -h rr.level3.net 63.0.0.0

% RIPEdb(3.0.0a13) with ISI RPSL extensions

route:         63.0.0.0/13
descr:         UUNET, An MCI Worldcom Company
               3060 Williams Drive
               Fairfax
               VA 22031 USA
origin:        AS701
mnt-by:        MAINT-AS701
changed:       juzer () UU NET 19981110
source:        RADB



In message <Pine.BSF.4.20.0003241745280.511-100000 () alive znep com>, Marc Slemko
 writes:
> Cute.  So, further to this, I noticed that AS3356 (level3.net) was
> advertising a route for 63/8, on and off.  Doesn't seem to be advertised
> right now, but it comes and goes.  Example history entry from a couple of
> minutes ago:
>
> BGP routing table entry for 63.0.0.0/8, version 5217053
> Paths: (14 available, no best path)
>  Not advertised to any peer
>  10764 5646 1239 3356 3356 3356 (history entry)
>    206.220.240.223 from 206.220.240.223 (206.220.240.223)
>      Origin IGP, localpref 100, external
>      Dampinfo: penalty 464, flapped 1 times in 00:17:10
>  5056 3561 3356 (history entry)
>    167.142.3.6 from 167.142.3.6 (167.142.3.6)
>      Origin IGP, localpref 100, external
>      Dampinfo: penalty 467, flapped 1 times in 00:17:00
>  267 1225 1325 1673 701 3356 (history entry)
>    204.42.253.253 from 204.42.253.253 (204.42.253.253)
>      Origin IGP, localpref 100, external
>      Community: 267:1225 1225:80 1225:1325
>      Dampinfo: penalty 732, flapped 2 times in 00:17:08
>  1755 1800 1239 3356 3356 3356 (history entry)
>    192.121.154.25 from 192.121.154.25 (192.121.154.25)
>      Origin IGP, localpref 100, external
>      Dampinfo: penalty 469, flapped 1 times in 00:16:50
>  293 1800 1239 3356 3356 3356 (history entry)
>    134.55.24.6 from 134.55.24.6 (134.55.20.229)
>      Origin IGP, localpref 100, external
>      Dampinfo: penalty 458, flapped 1 times in 00:17:24
>  1849 702 701 3356 (history entry)
> [...]
>
> Why are they doing this?  Who knows, they don't respond to email.  But I
> notice that they are advertising a whole bunch of /24s, /23s, and other
> sub /20 blocks under 63/8.  What a great solution; "hey, people can't
> reach us because we are advertising bogusly small blocks, so lets just
> advertise an aggregate for the whole /8 to make sure everyone listens to
> it".  Riiiiiiiiight.
>
> The concept (ie. advertise an aggregate, even if it doesn't go to exactly
> the right place, then also advertise more specifics; if someone filters
> the more specifics, the aggregate will serve to get traffic to a network
> that does listen to the more specifics) does often work as long as your
> network topography is simple enough, it sure doesn't cut down on route
> bloat.
>
> Insert standard rant about having a clue before advertising routes, not
> advertising bogusly small blocks, routing registries, etc.

--- jerry () fc net
Director Network Operations/Network Engineering, Wayport, Inc.
512-519-6193 www.wayport.net
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