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RE: whois broke again?


From: Larry Snyder <larrys () lexis-nexis com>
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 19:49:55 -0500 (EST)


"Roeland M.J. Meyer" <rmeyer () mhsc com> wrote:

Behalf Of Sean Donelan
Sent: Monday, February 21, 2000 1:22 PM

On Mon, 21 February 2000, bmanning () vacation karoshi com wrote:
Yes there are interesting scoping issues.  Yes there are concerns wrt
evil people and tolerent applications. But this tactic clearly puts the
onus on the people in control of the useage, not some
centralized repository.

That sounds great, except the time when WHOIS is most important is when
the contact has totally screwed up their site and can't be reached by any
in-band network.  The nice thing about WHOIS is it tends to be out-of-band
with respect to most screw-ups.  The notable exception is when
NSI screws-up.

The open question is why can RIPE get people to put good data in
their database,
and NSI can't manage to keep the little correct data they have
uncorrupted?

Because RIPE actually cares?

All of the RIPE registries are enjoined to keep the data pure and RIPE
checks it. NSI, OTOH, doesn't find out about bad contact data until the bill
is due for payment. However, it is almost invariably true that the Billing
Contact info is accurate. Ergo, they may not even find out at the next
billing cycle (two-years, for the first cycle and annualy after that).

RIPE actually ENFORCES data integrity.

I can attest to this personally.  It took about two weeks of constant
coordination to get our DNS provider authoritative for a .de domain.
It was in the end successful, but the process those folks follow is
impressive.  They are VERY thorough (to the point of checking the
ttl and rejecting the change if it falls outside their guidelines).
Very thorough...and that's not a bad thing!
-ls-




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