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Re: g.root-servers.net returns NXDOMAIN for com.


From: woods () weird com (Greg A. Woods)
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 12:49:05 -0400 (EDT)


[ On Friday, August 4, 2000 at 09:23:48 (-0500), Jeffrey C. Ollie wrote: ]
Subject: Re: g.root-servers.net returns NXDOMAIN for com.

Because g.root-servers.net should still return a list of authoritative
name servers for .com *even if* g.root-servers.net is no longer
authoritative for .com.

When g.root-servers.net returns an *AUTHORITATIVE NXDOMAIN* for .com
things start breaking.

I was going to write:

        Anyone asking g.root-servers.net for anything in .com is who's
        broken.  Any delegation pointing .com to g.root-servers.net
        should have long long ago timed out from any properly running
        nameserver out there.

but then I see this little surprise from a "host -C com.":

        com                     NS      G.ROOT-SERVERS.NET
        com SOA record currently not present at G.ROOT-SERVERS.NET
        com has lame delegation to G.ROOT-SERVERS.NET

When I look at the delegations directly in the two copies of the root
zone now in active use (2000080400 and 2000080301) I do not find where 
my local copy of the above NS record originated!  When I do a dumpdb I
find that it has the following origination:

com     81712   IN      NS      G.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.     ;Cr=addtnl [192.203.230.10]

Oddly it's not there now:

        # host -r -t ns com. 192.203.230.10
        com                     NS      I.GTLD-SERVERS.NET
        com                     NS      B.GTLD-SERVERS.NET
        com                     NS      A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET
        com                     NS      E.GTLD-SERVERS.NET
        com                     NS      F.GTLD-SERVERS.NET
        com                     NS      F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET
        com                     NS      J.GTLD-SERVERS.NET
        com                     NS      K.GTLD-SERVERS.NET
        com                     NS      A.GTLD-SERVERS.NET
        com                     NS      M.GTLD-SERVERS.NET
        com                     NS      G.GTLD-SERVERS.NET
        com                     NS      C.GTLD-SERVERS.NET

G.root-servers.net is also found in my cache as an NS for .ORG and .NET,
neither of which should be there according to the current root zone at
a.root-servers.net, nor even the older 2000080301 '.' zone still at some
other root servers!

org     116876  IN      NS      G.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.     ;Cr=addtnl [192.33.4.12]
NET     115866  IN      NS      G.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.     ;Cr=addtnl [198.41.0.10]

So I can see clearly where the bogus NS records came from, and I can see
approximately when too (the above dump records were generated at 12:29 EDT).

Does this mean someone foolishly made some radically BAD changes within
the 144-hour window where no changes should have been made!?!?!?!?!?

Can 'g.root-servers.net' QUICKLY be brought back online for com/org/net
until the 144-hour window necessary for a root zone change properly
expires?

-- 
                                                        Greg A. Woods

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