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Re: The Return of RP Records?


From: Jared Mauch <jared () puck nether net>
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 13:29:00 -0500

        (jump to end, POC info is still in whois)

        Yes, POC of information in dns, soa records, etc.. is useful.

        Problem is severe lack of clue with people running dns.  This
can not be easily fixed.

        ex:

 query(139.221.36.200.in-addr.arpa) All possible A RR's lame
 query(14.0.208.209.in-addr.arpa) All possible A RR's lame
 query(142.105.230.200.in-addr.arpa) All possible A RR's lame
 query(152.104.230.200.in-addr.arpa) All possible A RR's lame
 query(5.241.226.207.in-addr.arpa) All possible A RR's lame
 query(78.254.185.209.in-addr.arpa) All possible A RR's lame
 query(TN-56K-1.tamnet.com.mx) All possible A RR's lame
 query(TN-56K-172.tamnet.com.mx) All possible A RR's lame
 query(TN-56K-173.tamnet.com.mx) All possible A RR's lame
 query(cajunemail.com) All possible A RR's lame
 query(gate7.olympiakos.com) All possible A RR's lame
 query(geocites.com) All possible A RR's lame
 query(hotmail.net) All possible A RR's lame
 query(mail.hotmail.net) All possible A RR's lame
 query(worldnet.com) All possible A RR's lame
 query(writeme.net) All possible A RR's lame

        /sigh

Registrant:
Nether Network (NETHER-DOM)
   2738 Eastlawn
   Ypsilanti, MI 48197
   US

   Domain Name: NETHER.NET

   Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
      Mauch, Jared  (JM568)  jared () PUCK NETHER NET
      +1 216 902 5460x2634 (FAX) +1 734 332 7947
   Billing Contact:
      Mauch, Jared  (JM568)  jared () PUCK NETHER NET
      +1 216 902 5460x2634 (FAX) +1 734 332 7947

   Record last updated on 21-Jan-99.
   Database last updated on 14-Mar-99 09:13:23 EST.

   Domain servers in listed order:

   PUCK.NETHER.NET              204.42.254.5
   THORN.BLACKROSE.ORG          204.212.44.2
   SECONDARY.DNS.IAGNET.NET     131.103.1.101

On Sun, Mar 14, 1999 at 01:06:29PM -0500, Jeff wrote:

Greetings.

With the recent and only somewhat confirmed removal of POC information
from the Internic Whois database, and the upcoming set of newcomers to the
field, will we perhaps see a return or rise to popularity of RP dns
records?

Having your nameserver be able to dole out contact information for your
domains, site, and hosts is a nice alternative to having no source of this
information. Unfortunately, if your nameserver(s) are down when someone is
trying to contact you, the effort is futile.

The two biggest things that made whois useful in locating contact
information were that EVERY domain in the Internic-controlled TLD's had
contact information in Whois by requirement of Internic- and the database
somewhat centralized. There were multiple whois servers with all the
information, and you were usually able to obtain that information even if
network connectivity to a site was down.

As whois becomes less and less useful, we may find ourselves seeking
sanity in RP records. Unfortunately, it would appear that this is a
mediocre solution at best.

file this one under thoughts, random.

-jeff

Jeff Godin
Network Specialist
Traverse Area District Library / Traverse Community Network
jeff () tcnet org - 616/932-8546 voice


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