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Re: ORBS: Another Vigilante Group


From: Adam Rothschild <asr () millburn net>
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 16:31:10 -0500 (EST)

 Nonsense. Democratic forums are
 open, transparent, accountable,
 feature regular elections, laws,
 constitutions and so on. There
 are no such institutions on the

I don't think anyone ever claimed the RBL is a democratic institution.
Though this should go without saying, it certainly is not.  Still, what it
does, it does well, and I truly appreciate its existence.

I think the only real freedom with regards to the RBL is the freedom
of choice:  Upstreams are not *required* to subscribe to it, and customers
are not *required* to obtain service from RBL-ized upstreams.

 net. There are technically capable
 but otherwise unsophisticated
 lads running around pretending
 they are the law. They aren't.

I think not.
 
 manners. I have attacked no-one
            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Very cute.  See above.

 regularly trades in the violation
 of these rights. With nothing more
 to back him up but technical
 know-how and a gang of fellow
 geekthugs. A very unfortunate
 situation I suspect time will
 alter to a conclusion more in
 line with our traditons or
 democracy than with Vixie et
 al's propensity to totalitarian
 despotism.

I sure hope it does not change as such.  Then again, I don't consider
it to be an unfortunate situation.  The only unfortunate situation is
that you are a k00k who types with a 40-column terminal, fails to function
on a rational manner, and tries to protect freedoms that are not violated
in the first place.

Gee, this is getting boring and non-operational.  Where are those backhoes
and gophers when we need them? 8-)




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