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Re: PC Bozo's World bites again (CNN, too)


From: Vadim Antonov <avg () pluris com>
Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 00:09:35 -0700

On Wed, 27 May 1998, Michael Dillon wrote:

Most people are changing the MTU to speed up web browsing which is data
intensive, not interactive. I think Karl's explanation of broken Windows
TCP/IP stacks is more likely the root cause of the problem.

But has anyone ever done a proper test of this with sniffers at both the
client end of the network and the webserver end of the network?

I don't know, but dropped or corrupted large packets is the reliable
indicator
of the flow control problems on async lines.  I saw that million times,
and
that explanation is a lot more plausible than misterious bugs.  The
reason
why broken flow control affects TCP performance is very simple: most
dialup
modems have buffers from 2 to 4 kilobytes.  Now, given the large
disparity
in speed of dialup line and the serial port, that buffer limits window
size
to 2-3 large packets, with single packet lost due to modem buffer
overflow
every round-trip time.  I.e. the steady-mode packet loss is 15-30%. 
Reducing
MTU allows window to grow to 6-10 packets, thus reducing steady-mode
packet
loss to 3-5%.

The real answer is: fix the !#@! CTS/RTS, so the buffering occurs in
the host memory. 
 
(BTW, the recommendation to reduce MTU to increase interactive
performance is
only valid when connection is shared between interactive and
non-interactive
traffic.  This is clearly not the case.)

--vadim
Who still remembers debugging 4800 bps backbone lines.


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