Re: identify hostname

[Jonathan Mischo <supertaz () mindspring net>]

theoretically speaking.

-Taz

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On Thu, 3 Dec 1998, Roeland M.J. Meyer wrote:

> That won't work for them because you are using the same data to build
> filters. In fact, you can do it in a script, automate the whole thing..
>
> At 06:29 PM 12/3/98 -0500, Jonathan Mischo wrote:
> > this makes sense...until someone gets lazy, and takes a week to filter,
> > and the smurf brats catch on, and start querying DNS to find amplifiers.
> >
> > -Taz
> >
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> > Jonathan "Taz" Mischo -- Network Slave -- supertaz () mindspring net
> > Mindspring Enterprises, Inc.  1430 W. Peachtree St. Suite 400
> > Atlanta, GA  30309   1.800.719.4664 x2705  404.287.0770 x2705
> > fax: 404.287.0885 pager: pagetaz () netops mindspring net M-F2-10pET
> >
> > On Thu, 3 Dec 1998, Roeland M.J. Meyer wrote:
> >
> > > At 11:32 AM 12/2/98 -0700, Pete Kruckenberg wrote:
> > > > > I do have an access list deny for incoming destinations to *.*.*.255
> > > > > since I do know that the only customer we have with larger than a /24
> > > > > from us (via cw.net) also happens to have nothing larger than /26 in
> > > > > their network.  AFAIK, today, smurfers are only using *.*.*.255.  They
> > > > > would have to track a lot more information to use others, so for now I
> > > > > can generally expect that deny to prevent us from being an amplifier. 
> > > >
> > > > It's not difficult to find subnet broadcast addresses, since few routers
> > > > (if they even support it) are configured to filter ICMP replies. If there
> > > > isn't already software out there, it will take all of a few hours to add
> > > > broadcast-finding code to the smurfing software in existence.
> > >
> > > Guys,
> > >
> > > Why not make your down-stream fill out a *complete* IN-ADDR.ARPA file which
> > > lists their sub-net bcast and base addresses? That way yo could use the DNS
> > > system itself to find those addresses.
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