Re: not rewriting next-hop, pointing default, ...s

[Nathan Stratton <nathan () netrail net>]

I was not and will not ever point default to anyone. I am transit free,
and have no need to point default to UUNet or anyone else. 


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On Fri, 12 Sep 1997, Avi Freedman wrote:

> > On Sep 11, 21:15, Avi Freedman <freedman () netaxs com> wrote:
> > > them.  (eunet defaulting into uunet is OK
> >
> > Huhh?
>
> My most sincere apologies.  I meant to say *pipex* but I had a brain-o
> (not a typo, where your fingers type the wrong thing but you should
> know better; a brain-o is when your brain knows the right party but
> says the wrong thing).
>
> Randy has suggested that I put the whole mess online, for MAE-East
> at least - but it amounts to a peering matrix as well as a funniness
> detector, and some have invoked "what if the marketing people use
> it to say so-and-so-sucks-because-they-don't-peer-with-so-and-so-else".
>
> I'll take an opinion count @ NANOG next month...
>
> > ------ ___                        --- Per G. Bilse, Director Network Eng & Ops
> > ----- /     /  /   __   ___  _/_ ---- EUnet Communications Services B.V.
>
> Anyway, very sorry...
>
> Here is a partial list of the default violations of April 22, 1996's run:
> At the time UUNET said that pipex had permission...
> As I look at it, 192.41.177.90 might be someone else now.
> Pipex's mae routers might not be online any more.
> ins.net is still defaulting into uunet now, and as I recall they
> had permission as well:
>
> -----------------------
> mae-netaxs(config)#ip route 3.4.5.6 255.255.255.255 192.41.177.112
> mae-netaxs(config)#end
> mae-netaxs#trace 3.4.5.6
>
>   1 192.41.177.112 [AS 1800] 12 msec 12 msec 8 msec
>   2 192.41.177.249 [AS 1800] 12 msec 20 msec 4 msec
>   3  *  * 
> -----------------------
>
> Again, sorry for the pipex/eunet confusion.
>
> Avi
>
> -------- 
> -------- below is a snip from the 4/22/96 mae-mapper run
> -------- 
>
> -------------------- to nowhere through [mae-east-gw.pol.net] 
>
> trace 3.4.5.6
>
> Type escape sequence to abort.
> Tracing the route to 3.4.5.6
>
>   1 mae-east-gw.pol.net (192.41.177.90) [AS 3491] 8 msec 8 msec 8 msec
>   2 Vienna1.VA.ALTER.NET (137.39.127.1) [AS 701] 156 msec 204 msec 208 msec
>   3 Vienna1.VA.ALTER.NET (137.39.127.1) [AS 701] !H  *  !H 
>
>
> -------------------- to nowhere through [e0-10m.mae-east.netrail.net] 
>
> trace 3.4.5.6
>
> Type escape sequence to abort.
> Tracing the route to 3.4.5.6
>
>   1 e0-10m.mae-east.netrail.net (192.41.177.228) [AS 3491] 8 msec 4 msec 8 msec
>   2 S2-T1.nr-2-Arlington-VA.netrail.net (205.215.63.5) [AS 4006] 12 msec 12 msec 8 msec
>   3 S2-T1.nr-2-Arlington-VA.netrail.net (205.215.63.5) [AS 4006] !H  !H  !H 
>
> -------------------- to nowhere through [maeegw1.us.insnet.net] 
>
> trace 3.4.5.6
>
> Type escape sequence to abort.
> Tracing the route to 3.4.5.6
>
>   1 maeegw1.us.insnet.net (192.41.177.112) [AS 3491] 8 msec 4 msec 8 msec
>   2 Vienna1.VA.ALTER.NET (192.41.177.249) [AS 3491] 4 msec 8 msec 4 msec
>   3 Vienna1.VA.ALTER.NET (192.41.177.249) [AS 3491] !H  *  * 
>
> -------------------- to nowhere through [was-gw1.pipex.net] 
>
> trace 3.4.5.6
>
> Type escape sequence to abort.
> Tracing the route to 3.4.5.6
>
>   1 was-gw1.pipex.net (192.41.177.190) [AS 3491] 8 msec 4 msec 8 msec
>   2 Vienna1.VA.ALTER.NET (192.41.177.249) [AS 3491] 8 msec 8 msec 12 msec
>   3 Vienna1.VA.ALTER.NET (192.41.177.249) [AS 3491] !H  *  !H 
>
>
> -------------------- to nowhere through [(unknown)] 
>
> trace 3.4.5.6
>
> Type escape sequence to abort.
> Tracing the route to 3.4.5.6
>
>   1 192.41.177.191 [AS 3491] 4 msec 8 msec 4 msec
>   2 Vienna1.VA.ALTER.NET (192.41.177.249) [AS 3491] 8 msec 8 msec 8 msec
>   3 Vienna1.VA.ALTER.NET (192.41.177.249) [AS 3491] !H  *  *