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Re: moving to IPv6
From: Winfried Haug <nanog () hq seicom net>
Date: Sun, 9 Nov 1997 23:19:14 +0100 (CET)
Have little experience in international networking, ain't we?
well it is sometime better to have a big pipe to the US than a two smaller pipes to Europe and US :-)
Take Russian Internet for example: five largest ISPs all have separate dedicated links to _different_ European and North American backbones.
well just wait a few weeks, than - if nothing happens - about 20 Mbit/sec of Traffic now exchanged within germany will go over us. Not because of a technical problems but due to political problems. This concers nearly all traffic between the german commercial ISPs and the academic part of the germany internet (DFN/WIN). All majer isps have cancelled their contract with the dfn for 31/12/97 because the commercial isps are no longer willing to pay for access to the academic networks. The traffic is going in both directions, but it cant be right, that only one site pays. And only one AS (and customer ASes) are accepted, but no AS from another ISP. This costs additional $$ BTW: a E1 contact with DFN costs about 6000$ a month + local loop to their next access point!.
This seems to be a typical picture all around the world. European connectivity is particularly convoluted.
yes, thats how the wourld comes together Cheers Winfried Winfried Haug | SEICOM.DE & SCHWABEN.DE | Tel. 07121 9770- 0 Laiblinsplatz 12 | Internet+ISDN access & consulting | Fax. 07121 9770-19 72793 Pfullingen | Access in STGT + RT + TUE + BB + LB | Rack 07127 989-X haug () schwaben net| 150*ISDN (64kb/X.75) / 100 * K56flex | Rack 0711 9675-X haug () seicom net |SAP-OSS * FTP * TELNET * NETNEWS * IRC | Rack 07121 709-X * 4 MBit DE-CIX * 2 MBit WIN * 2 MBit BelWue * 2 MBit INXS * 2 MBit UU.NET *
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