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Re: Non-profit IP Registry
From: "Alex.Bligh" <amb () xara net>
Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 15:20:40 +0000
How will portable/non-portable address space be effected. Does the mean that if I have non-portable address space, I can charge customers for address space, and if it is portable, they have to pay $2500 per /24 to have it registered to them?That would not go over well. <G>
<Warning: the following is not entirely serious> Oh I don't know, a $122m grant for some competition perhaps? Internic currently assigns (effectively) out of a /8. There are several other /8s around that are underutilised. Let's say you run one of these and your network could actually fit in a /10. You renumber (ouch, expensive), then assign the rest of your /8 (49152 class Cs) in a manner similar to Internic, doing your best to assign CIDR friendly blocks etc. etc. to applicants. If you sold them all at $2500 per class C, you'd pocket $122m (enough to pay for any renumbering and the admin of the exercise). Would they get routed? Well you would be assigning blocks of all sizes and if your assignment policy was as good as or better than Internic, why would people want to filter? In fact, if you undercut Internic, you could perhaps even sell class Bs etc. to tier-1s who'd have no reason not to use them. If not, the change from $122m can pay for a pretty decent amount of transit for some proxy aggregation (i.e. you continue to announce the /8 for a while). Perhaps better still, pervert the RIPE model. Sell class /16s out of your /8 to competing subregistries, who can then onsell space at a profit (as smaller bits are more expensive). May be even reinvent pyramid selling: "Look, you have this /n currently, all you have to do is renumber with our $5000 autorenumbering software into our /n-2 and sell the plan and the other /n-2 to 3 organizations for $5000, and you'll have instantly made $10,000! Then sell your old /n using this scheme as well to someone with a /n+2 and make another $5000". Or something. Why do I feel there is a flaw somewhere.... Alex Bligh Xara Networks - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
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- Re: Non-profit IP Registry, (continued)
- Re: Non-profit IP Registry Paul R.D. Lantinga (Jan 03)
- Re: Non-profit IP Registry Bob Collie (Jan 02)
- Re: Non-profit IP Registry Eric D. Madison (Jan 02)
- Re: Non-profit IP Registry David Stoddard (Jan 02)
- Re: Non-profit IP Registry Marc Slemko (Jan 02)
- Re: Non-profit IP Registry David Schwartz (Jan 02)
- Re: Non-profit IP Registry Daryn D. Fisher (Jan 02)
- Re: Non-profit IP Registry Marc Slemko (Jan 02)
- Re: Non-profit IP Registry David R. Conrad (Jan 02)
- Re: Non-profit IP Registry Daryn D. Fisher (Jan 02)
- Re: Non-profit IP Registry Robert J. Fehn Sr. (Jan 03)
- Re: Non-profit IP Registry Alex.Bligh (Jan 03)
- Re: Non-profit IP Registry Joe Pace (Jan 03)
- Re: Non-profit IP Registry Wayne Bouchard (Jan 03)
- Re: Non-profit IP Registry Todd R. Stroup (Jan 03)
- Re: Non-profit IP Registry Paul Ferguson (Jan 03)
- Re: Non-profit IP Registry Thomas Narten (Jan 04)
- Re: IPv6 Internet Randall Atkinson (Jan 04)
- Re: Non-profit IP Registry Thomas Narten (Jan 04)
- Re: Non-profit IP Registry Paul Ferguson (Jan 04)
- Re: Non-profit IP Registry Owen DeLong (Jan 04)