Re: Ad Hoc, eDNS, AlterNIC and the bunch

[Karl Denninger <karl () Mcs Net>]

On Thu, Apr 10, 1997 at 03:31:59PM -0700, Michael Dillon wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Apr 1997, Karl Denninger wrote:
>
> > > The rest of the
> > > organizations that have announced an intent to sign at a formal
> >                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> > The IAHC has said they *SIGNED* the documents.
> >
> > Intent and action are two different things Perry.
>
> Grow up Karl! Hank Nussbacher said as follows:
>
>    Of the over 25 signatories (so far), MCI is just one.  UUnet, Digital,
>    France Telecom, EFF, are others that come to mind. 
>
> Hank is only one member of the IAHC and does not issue official
> statements. 

But he lied.  The EFF has said they *HAVE NOT* signed.  In fact, according
to the other people involved, *NONE* of those so-called signatories are in
fact signatories at this point in time.

> He's also human and can make mistakes. Maybe since English is not the only
> language he uses in his daily work, he missed some of the subtlety
> inherent in the word "signatory".

There is no subtlety in the word "signatory".

> > So the truth is that there are *TWO* signatures, one of which is bogus as
> > IANA isn't an organization (and thus can't sign anything as "IANA"; Mr.
> > Postel can sign the document as *JON POSTEL*, but not as the "IANA" as it is
> > a task, not an organization).
>
> Jon Postel can sign any document he darn well pleases under whatever
> rubric he darn well pleases to use. In particular, it is well known that
> Jon Postel is the official voice of IANA and is the one who makes official
> statements for IANA. This MoU looks a lot like an official statement to
> me.

The IANA *DOES NOT EXIST* as an organization.

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