Re Guess Who's Not Coming To America? International Students

["Dave Farber" <dave () farber net>]

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From: Joseph Pistritto <jcp () pistritto org>
Date: Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: [IP] Guess Who's Not Coming To America? International Students
To: David Farber <dave () farber net>, <dewayne () warpspeed com>
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There's a simpler explanation if the big dip is coming from India.

A lot of Indians are actually Moslem.  (I dont know what the ratio at the
college level is, or was before coming to the US, but its a signficant
percentage of the overall population).    If Moslems are less likely to
come to the US in the last year (I've heard this is true), then it would
affect Indian numbers significantly.

Maybe its politically incorrect to point out that religion might be a
factor, but it was the first thing that occurred to me. (used to be married
to an Indian citizen for 19 years...)
  -jcp-




On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 6:38 AM, Dave Farber <farber () gmail com> wrote:

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> *From:* Dewayne Hendricks <dewayne () warpspeed com>
> *Date:* March 2, 2018 at 7:48:19 AM EST
> *To:* Multiple recipients of Dewayne-Net <dewayne-net () warpspeed com>
> *Subject:* *[Dewayne-Net] Guess Who's Not Coming To America?
> International Students*
> *Reply-To:* dewayne-net () warpspeed com
>
> [Note:  This item comes from friend Mike Cheponis.  DLH]
>
> Guess Who's Not Coming To America? International Students
> By Stuart Anderson
> Mar 2 2018
> <
> https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2018/03/02/guess-whos-not-coming-to-america-international-students/
> >
>
> International students are America’s “golden goose.” They provide billions
> of dollars to the U.S. economy every year, subsidize the education of U.S.
> students and are a key source of talent that  help make American tech
> companies the envy of the world. So why is the Trump administration trying
> to drive away international students? More important, is the administration
> succeeding? New data suggest the answer may be “yes.”
>
> A recent National Foundation for American Policy (NFAP) study found, “The
> number of international students enrolled at U.S. universities declined by
> approximately 4% between 2016 and 2017, according to an analysis of U.S.
> Department of Homeland Security data.” The study notes, “The number of
> international students enrolled at the graduate level in science and
> engineering fell by 14,730, or 6%, between 2016 and 2017, which represented
> about half of the overall drop in international students.”
>
> In what could be a significant development, much of the overall decline in
> international student enrollment is due to fewer individuals from India
> studying computer science and engineering at the graduate level in 2017.
> “The number of international students from India enrolled in graduate level
> programs in computer science and engineering declined by 21%, or 18,590
> fewer graduate students, from 2016 to 2017,” the NFAP analysis found.
>
> The data on international students were part of a recent report by the
> National Science Board, which serves as the board of directors of the
> National Science Foundation. The source is the U.S. government’s Student
> and Exchange Visitor Information System (SEVIS) database.
>
> Indian graduate students in computer science and engineering at U.S.
> universities are a key source of talent for U.S. companies. The decline in
> their numbers may relate to concerns about working after graduation. Those
> concerns may be tied to Trump administration policies to make it harder to
> obtain H-1B visas, administration proposals to eliminate work authorization
> for the spouses of H-1B visa holders, and the long waits for Indians to
> obtain employment-based green cards due to the per-country limit and low
> annual quotas.
>
> Another more direct worry is the Trump administration has published its
> intention to restrict the ability of international students to work after
> graduation on Optional Practical Training (OPT), which allows for 12 months
> of work for students. OPT in science, technology, engineering and math
> (STEM) fields allows for an additional 24 months of work. Educators say OPT
> makes a U.S. education more practical and “real world.” U.S. employers say
> the time on OPT improves the chances they can obtain H-1B status for an
> international student.
>
> Recall that an H-1B visa is typically the only practical way for an
> international student to work in the United States long-term. However, the
> annual H-1B quota has been reached for 15 straight years. Companies note
> they often need two or three attempts before gaining an H-1B for an
> international student, which means the end of Optional Practical Training,
> or its curtailment, could make it impossible for many international
> students ever to work in the United States – and that may be the goal of
> key Trump administration officials.
>
> A bill introduced in December 2015 by then-Senator Jeff Sessions and Sen.
> Ted Cruz would have, in effect, prohibited international students from
> working in the United States after graduation. The bill eliminated Optional
> Practical Training and required anyone without a Ph.D. to work outside the
> U.S. for 10 years before obtaining an H-1B visa. The bill imposed such
> extreme conditions that even those with Ph.D.’s would have been unlikely to
> get a visa.
>
> Trump immigration advisor Stephen Miller, who press reports indicate
> controls most of the administration’s immigration agenda, is a former
> Sessions staffer. Individuals who worked for organizations or Senators with
> animus toward international students and employment-based immigrants also
> fill many other key executive branch immigration policy positions.
>
> As noted in previous columns, “merit-based immigration” in the Trump
> administration means fewer immigrants, not making it easier for any actual
> high-skilled foreign nationals to immigrate to or stay in America.
>
> Research has shown a positive connection between international students
> and U.S. student enrollment. “At the graduate level, international students
> do not crowd-out, but actually increase domestic enrollment,” according to
> a study by economist Kevin Shih. “Foreign student tuition revenue is used
> to subsidize the cost of enrolling additional domestic students.”
>
> We can see this in real-time, as a lower number of international students
> at some universities have already resulted in budget cuts and fewer course
> offerings for U.S. students. “Just as many universities believed that the
> financial wreckage left by the 2008 recession was behind them, campuses
> across the country have been forced to make new rounds of cuts, this time
> brought on, in large part, by a loss of international students,” reported
> the New York Times in January. Wright State in Ohio, for example,
> eliminated programs for Italian, Russian and Japanese after international
> student enrollment declined.
>
> [snip]
>
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