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Re Ask Slashdot: Is There a Good Alternative to Facebook?


From: "Dave Farber" <farber () gmail com>
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2018 20:43:31 -0400




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From: Tom Goltz <tgoltz () QuietSoftware com>
Date: March 25, 2018 at 8:03:13 PM EDT
To: dave () farber net
Cc: lauren () vortex com
Subject: Re: [IP] Ask Slashdot: Is There a Good Alternative to Facebook?

Going to Google+ to avoid Facebook is jumping from the frying pan into the fire.

When Google+ first started up, one of the prominent policies was that they required "Real Names".  As they originally 
interpreted that policy, I was in violation of that policy if I created a profile with the name of "Tom Goltz" 
because that is not my legal name.  While I was *probably* OK, it rapidly became clear that the policy was being 
unevenly and inconsistently applied.  Worse yet, if the Google+ ban-hammer came down on your account, it didn't just 
take out your ability to use Google+, but your entire Google account.  This meant that my Gmail account would stop 
working, my Android phone would be badly crippled, Google Drive would stop working, and my ability to access Google 
Docs would be severely curtailed.

There was no documented or usable appeal process, and it was also almost impossible to reach a human to appeal a ban 
by the faceless army making these arbitrary decisions.  I decided that it simply wasn't worth the risk to use Google+ 
and deleted my profile.

Google is also in the same business as Facebook: They're gathering as much information as they can about people and 
using that data to sell advertising.  Given the amount of data they already receive from the Google services I do 
use, I don't think it's a good idea to add the "social" data currently on Facebook into that pot.

On 3/25/2018 3:13 PM, Dave Farber wrote:



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From: Lauren Weinstein <lauren () vortex com>
Date: March 25, 2018 at 3:11:26 PM EDT
To: nnsquad () nnsquad org
Subject: [ NNSquad ] Ask Slashdot: Is There a Good Alternative to Facebook?


Ask Slashdot: Is There a Good Alternative to Facebook?

https://tech.slashdot.org/story/18/03/25/0039218/ask-slashdot-is-there-a-good-alternative-to-facebook

   Lauren Weinstein believes Google has already created an
   alternative to Facebook's "sick ecosystem": Google Plus.
   "There are no ads on Google+. Nobody can buy their             way into
   your feed or pay Google for priority. Google doesn't
   micromanage what you see. Google doesn't sell your personal
   information to any third parties..." And most importantly,
   "There's much less of an emphasis on hanging around with those
   high school nitwits whom you despised anyway, and much more a
   focus on meeting new persons from around the world for
   intelligent discussions... G+ posts more typically are about
   'us' -- and tend to be far more interesting as a result."
   (Even Linus Torvalds is already reviewing gadgets there.)



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