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Fwd: re Apple Is Blocking an App That Detects Net Neutrality Violations From the App Store
From: "Dave Farber" <dave () farber net>
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 19:27:28 +0000
---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Brett Glass <brett () lariat net> Date: Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 1:33 PM Subject: Re: [IP] Apple Is Blocking an App That Detects Net Neutrality Violations From the App Store To: <dave () farber net> Dave: Apple is right to block such apps. "Net neutrality" is an empty, ill-defined slogan; it has no agreed-upon definition and is neither a law nor a regulation. (The FCC has just wisely repealed the 2015 Open Internet Order, which purported to contain "net neutrality" provisions but in fact specifically allowed practices such as curation and prohibited others - such as zero-rating - which have to do not with traffic management but with billing.) What's more, due to the very nature of the Internet, no such app can be accurate. The Internet is, by design, a "best effort" delivery system; an ISP can only manage traffic as far as the edge of its own network. In my opinion, it is time to retire the phrase "net neutrality" and adopt accurate language that precisely describes specific network management practices - many of which are beneficial to consumers. It is also time to stop casting aspersions upon ISPs. We are hard working professionals who often take great risks to provide and maintain Internet connectivity... and who get far smaller returns, relative to our investments, than edge service providers. We do not seek to harm our customers or degrade the quality of our services; rather, we need to manage them to avoid exploitation and degradation by greedy apps and devices, malware, and the small percentage of end users who maliciously attempt to abuse them. If we do not succeed at this, our customers will depart for other providers, since Internet service - due to the Internet's very design - is impossible to maintain as a monopoly. It is edge service providers - many of which DO have monopolies and which provide services for free so as to turn users into their product - who are far more guilty of unethical tactics and are only now beginning to undergo proper scrutiny for those practices. Instead of creating apps that stress and degrade networks while providing misinformation that can be used to falsely accuse ISPs of unsavory practices, perhaps our time could be better spent investigating the real offenders. --Brett Glass At 11:07 AM 1/18/2018, you wrote: ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Richard Forno <rforno () infowarrior org > Date: Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 11:10 AM Subject: Apple Is Blocking an App That Detects Net Neutrality Violations From the App Store To: Infowarrior List < infowarrior () attrition org> CC: Dave Farber <dave () farber net> Apple Is Blocking an App That Detects Net Neutrality Violations From the App Store Apple told a university professor his app "has no direct benefits to the user." https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/j5vn9k/apple-blocking-net-neutrality-app-wehe Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/247/=now> <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/247/125300-2f92aa2e>| Modify <https://www.listbox.com/member/?&> Your Subscription | Unsubscribe Now <https://www.listbox.com/unsubscribe/?&&post_id=20180118130746:7A5EC128-FC7A-11E7-9661-E33721D31385> <http://www.listbox.com> ------------------------------------------- Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/247/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/247/18849915-ae8fa580 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=18849915&id_secret=18849915-aa268125 Unsubscribe Now: https://www.listbox.com/unsubscribe/?member_id=18849915&id_secret=18849915-32545cb4&post_id=20180118142745:A6E6A3D6-FC85-11E7-8B25-8BB172E6AE54 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
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