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Fwd: re Apple Is Blocking an App That Detects Net Neutrality Violations From the App Store


From: "Dave Farber" <dave () farber net>
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 19:27:28 +0000

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From: Brett Glass <brett () lariat net>
Date: Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: [IP] Apple Is Blocking an App That Detects Net Neutrality
Violations From the App Store
To: <dave () farber net>


Dave:

Apple is right to block such apps. "Net neutrality" is an empty,
ill-defined slogan; it has no agreed-upon definition and is neither a law
nor a regulation. (The FCC has just wisely repealed the 2015 Open Internet
Order, which purported to contain "net neutrality" provisions but in fact
specifically allowed practices such as curation and prohibited others -
such as zero-rating - which have to do not with traffic management but with
billing.) What's more, due to the very nature of the Internet, no such app
can be accurate. The Internet is, by design, a "best effort" delivery
system; an ISP can only manage traffic as far as the edge of its own
network.

In my opinion, it is time to retire the phrase "net neutrality" and adopt
accurate language that precisely describes specific network management
practices - many of which are beneficial to consumers. It is also time to
stop casting aspersions upon ISPs. We are hard working professionals who
often take great risks to provide and maintain Internet connectivity... and
who get far smaller returns, relative to our investments, than edge service
providers.  We do not seek to harm our customers or degrade the quality of
our services; rather, we need to manage them to avoid exploitation and
degradation by greedy apps and devices, malware, and the small percentage
of end users who maliciously attempt to abuse them. If we do not succeed at
this, our customers will depart for other providers, since Internet service
- due to the Internet's very design - is impossible to maintain as a
monopoly. It is edge service providers - many of which DO have monopolies
and which provide services for free so as to turn users into their product
- who are far more guilty of unethical tactics and are only now beginning
to undergo proper scrutiny for those practices.

Instead of creating apps that stress and degrade networks while providing
misinformation that can be used to falsely accuse ISPs of unsavory
practices, perhaps our time could be better spent investigating the real
offenders.

--Brett Glass


At 11:07 AM 1/18/2018, you wrote:


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From: Richard Forno <rforno () infowarrior org >
Date: Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 11:10 AM
Subject: Apple Is Blocking an App That Detects Net Neutrality Violations
From the App Store
To: Infowarrior List < infowarrior () attrition org>
CC: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>



Apple Is Blocking an App That Detects Net Neutrality Violations From the
App Store

Apple told a university professor his app "has no direct benefits to the
user."

https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/j5vn9k/apple-blocking-net-neutrality-app-wehe

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