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Re Will the fate of America's democracy be decided by this US supreme court case?


From: "Dave Farber" <farber () gmail com>
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2017 16:44:03 -0400




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From: George Sadowsky <george.sadowsky () gmail com>
Date: October 3, 2017 at 4:42:45 PM EDT
To: Farber Dave <dave () farber net>
Subject: Re: [IP] Re Will the fate of America's democracy be decided by this US supreme court case?

Dave,

[for IP if you would like]

I worked with Morris Davis in 1964 to do what Ridgely Evens suggests below.  Davis, Director of the Yale Computer 
Center, was appointed a special Master by the Federal Court in Connecticut to come up with a plan for Connecticut's 
congressional districts.

We used two algorithms:

1. An iterative quadratic programming method to map Connecticut's 169 towns into districts, with initial manually 
placed centroids that moved in successive rounds to minimize the quadratic cumulative distance function from 
centroids to towns, with constraints on near equality of population.
These methods were originated and used in Delaware by Jim Weaver and Sid Hess and can be found via search.

2. Pairs of orthogonal scans (E-W, N-S) of the geography to provide the right number of districts of roughly equal 
population.  We published the results of this method in "Legislative Districting by Computer," Jurimetrics, Vol. 8, 
No. 4, June 1968, pp. 77-98.

Both methods yielded intuitively sensible partitionings of the state, and were used as a a basis for negotiation by 
the legislature. 

I'm sure that similar and probably better methods are available today.  The issue is not feasibility; it's a matter 
of political will and entrenched power.

George Sadowsky 
  
On Oct 3, 2017, at 3:38 PM, Dave Farber <farber () gmail com> wrote:

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From: Ridgely Evers <rce () evers org>
Date: October 3, 2017 at 3:35:59 PM EDT
To: Farber David <dave () farber net>
Subject: Re: [IP] Re Will the fate of America's democracy be decided by this US supreme court case?

Interestingly, though SCOTUS won't take this into account, today's mapping data would enable an entirely 
algorithmic mechanism for optimizing district boundaries according to a public ruleset.

The rules could, for example, start with
equal population +/- X%
minimize perimeter
respect natural boundaries (rivers, for example)
maximize racial diversity
etc.

Then, the debate could focus on the rules, which is where it strikes me the focus should be.

As I said, won't happen.  But it's nice to think about it.

Best,

--Ridge

On Oct 3, 2017, at 9:57 AM, Dave Farber <farber () gmail com> wrote:




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From: Larry press <larrypress () gmail com>
Date: October 3, 2017 at 12:39:42 PM EDT
To: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>
Cc: ip <ip () listbox com>
Subject: Re: [IP] Will the fate of America's democracy be decided by this US supreme court case?
Reply-To: larrypress () gmail com

Subject: [Dewayne-Net] Will the fate of America's democracy be decided by this US supreme court case?

Gerrymandering dates back to the 18th century, but Internet data, GIS
software and donors like the Koch brothers have improved and automated
it.

http://cis471.blogspot.com/2017/04/modern-internet-enabled-gerrymandering.html


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