Re Internet in Catalonia?

["Dave Farber" <farber () gmail com>]

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> From: John Day <jeanjour () comcast net>
> Date: October 2, 2017 at 6:08:47 AM EDT
> To: dave farber <farber () gmail com>
> Subject: Re: [IP] Internet in Catalonia?
>
> I am working closely with multiple people in Barcelona. I trust their appraisal.  Here is what two of them said:
>
> 1) "The referedum was unilateral and illegal, not supported by the Spanish constitution nor the Catalan regional law 
> (we have a political problem here, catalan regional government and Spanish government don't want to talk to each 
> other). Judges ordered the police to tear down the IT system backing up the referendum. If everything that Assange 
> reports has this degree of accuracy…"
>
>
> 2)  "Regarding the reports about the federal government, called here central government, occupying (whatever that 
> means) telecom providers, that's not true. And it's not true either that they tried to limit internet use. Moreover, 
> the idea that our central government would have a pre-planned tactic for something cannot be true in general, so 
> mindless, stupid, and utter incompetent is. What they did was to cut the polling stations' internet access, and then 
> block access to the app used to check the so-called census. And it wasn't the government, it was the police by means 
> of court orders issued by the Supreme Court of Justice of Catalonia. A really big, dirty mess. Most tweets of Assange 
> these last days regarding Catalonia have been quite stupid. 
> "I said so-called census because the autonomous government of Catalonia tried unsuccessfully to create a census to be 
> used on polling day. They didn't have legal authority to gather these data, they tried anyway, but couldn't send it 
> to the polling stations (courts authorized police to seize the documents). And in the end they had to put what they 
> got in servers to be accessed by cell phones. The police then put down those servers, using the court mandated orders.
> "As I said, a nightmare."
>  
> FWIW
> John
>
>
> > On Oct 1, 2017, at 21:49, Dave Farber <farber () gmail com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Begin forwarded message:
> >
> > > From: Thomas Lord <lord () basiscraft com>
> > > Date: October 1, 2017 at 7:10:29 PM EDT
> > > To: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>
> > > Subject: Internet in Catalonia? (corrected re-send)
> > >
> > >
> > > A query for the IP, please? (This is a corrected re-send.)
> > >
> > > On twitter I have read semi-credible reports that, in Catalonia,
> > > the federal government of Spain has occupied some major telecom
> > > providers and has deployed what seems to be a pre-planned tactic
> > > to severely limit Internet use.
> > >
> > > I have attached a screenshot of some such reports from Assange.
> > >
> > > Are there any on IP who can confirm, contradict, or add to
> > > these reports?
> > >
> > > Is there any (open, overt) attempt in more stable countries
> > > to help thwart this crackdown as this moment is unfolding?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > -t
> > > <Screenshot from 2017-10-01 14-44-25.png>
> >
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