Re pro-crypto Aussie (prime) minister (Re: Australia to seek greater powers on encrypted messaging at 'Five eyes' meeting)

["Dave Farber" <dave () farber net>]

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From: David Magda <dmagda () ee ryerson ca>
Date: Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 9:23 AM
Subject: pro-crypto Aussie (prime) minister (Re: [IP] Australia to seek
greater powers on encrypted messaging at 'Five eyes' meeting)
To: <dave () farber net>


Cory Doctorow had a pretty take down on all this (as he usually does when
these types of topics comes up):

> The Australian Attorney General and a key Australian minister have
published a memo detailing the demand they plan on presenting to the next
Five Eyes surveillance alliance meeting, which will be held next week in
Ottawa.

        https://boingboing.net/2017/06/26/crypto-denialism.html

However, it’s a bit more interesting that all that:

> Communications Minister Malcolm Turnbull has confirmed he uses a secret
messaging app, saying unsolicited texts sent to federal MPs prove SMS
technology is not secure.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-03-03/malcolm-turnbull-uses-secret-messaging-app-instead-of-sms/6276712

And more recently, now that Turnbull is the PM:

> Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull and his most senior cabinet ministers are
using a third-party messaging application to conduct confidential
discussions, prompting cyber security experts to warn the innovation could
actually pose a security risk.
> The use of WhatsApp is not limited to senior ministers; private chat
'groups' exist for government chiefs of staff, ministerial media advisers,
the frontline economic team, and a defence-focused "broadcast group" used
by Defence Industry Minister Christopher Pyne to communicate with MPs and
staff.

        https://tinyurl.com/gwlewy7

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/malcolm-turnbull-and-senior-cabinet-ministers-using-whatsapp-could-pose-security-risk-experts-20161012-gs0cuj.html

Quite a few news stories show up if you do a search for "Malcolm Turnbull
whatsapp”.


> On Jun 25, 2017, at 11:25, Dave Farber <farber () gmail com> wrote:
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> > Australia to seek greater powers on encrypted messaging at 'Five eyes'
meeting
> >
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-australia-security-messaging-idUSKBN19G044
> >     Australia said on Sunday it will push for greater powers to
> >   tackle the use of encrypted messaging services used by
> >   terrorists and criminals at an upcoming meeting of ministers
> >   from the "Five Eyes" intelligence network.  The United States,
> >   United Kingdom, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand, will meet
> >   in the Canadian city of Ottawa next week, where they will
> >   discuss tactics to combat terrorism and border protection, two
> >   senior Australian ministers said.



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